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Smart kid I agree, but a real genius needs to figure out a COST EFFECTIVE way to bring solar to our doors. To power your house and IF you built it yourself you're looking at $15,000+ easily. If you just buy panels and pay for install your looking at $40,000+.

I know for a fact that with our 52kw a day summer usage we would need 32 deep cycle batteries and around 8kw worth of panels. This is to ensure our batteries banks NEVER fall below 50% usage (remember its considered dead @ 10v so we want to stay 50% above that mark for battery life)

Batteries you can get for $150-$200 and we can make a 90w panel for $120 (homemade frame etc)
Cost of just the basics is $15,480 then you take inverters which can easily be $2000 for the wattage you will need, especially for a AC unit which is the hardest "hurdle" for solar usage.
    
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Making it move defeats the whole point. The point was to show that a tree-like arrangement gathers more than a stationary flat arrangement, because the tree-like one gathers light at more or less the same efficiency throughout the day, as opposed to a stationary flat panel, which only works well when it's at the correct angle. If you're going to have a moving solar panel, a flat one would be worlds better.
The purpose is to gather energy, if it moves so ALL cells are at optimum angle all day long it will gather more energy, how is that defeating the purpose?

It's a good try at science by the kid (the world needs more of this type of kids), but people are really falling for the whole press hype (who themselves can't spot the flaw in the experiment). And people are defending it by ignorant arguments.
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The purpose is to gather energy, if it moves so ALL cells are at optimum angle all day long it will gather more energy, how is that defeating the purpose?

It's a good try at science by the kid (the world needs more of this type of kids), but people are really falling for the whole press hype (who themselves can't spot the flaw in the experiment). And people are defending it by ignorant arguments.
I think he's trying to point out the fact that it moves which makes the fact it's a tree irrelevant (Although this is untrue).

If it was a large, flat singular panel that also moved it would gather an increased amount of sunlight compared to the smaller panels on the tree model.

The thing wrong with that theory is that there will be an optimum angle for the cells to intake the light without as much reflecting off or potentially missing the cells - if the smaller panels can all move freely regardless of the other panels it will allow it to move to the optimum position for each panel whereas the large singular panel will have areas of high energy intake but also areas of low energy intake.
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I think he's trying to point out the fact that it moves which makes the fact it's a tree irrelevant (Although this is untrue).

If it was a large, flat singular panel that also moved it would gather an increased amount of sunlight compared to the smaller panels on the tree model.
Yes that's what I'm talking about, a regular cell array moving will beat out the tree every single time.
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The purpose is to gather energy, if it moves so ALL cells are at optimum angle all day long it will gather more energy, how is that defeating the purpose?
Because the panels aren't all at the optimal angle, so even if it tracks, it will be far less effective than a tracking flat panel. It's a huge waste and is completely unnecessary.

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I think he's trying to point out the fact that it moves which makes the fact it's a tree irrelevant (Although this is untrue).

If it was a large, flat singular panel that also moved it would gather an increased amount of sunlight compared to the smaller panels on the tree model.

The thing wrong with that theory is that there will be an optimum angle for the cells to intake the light without as much reflecting off or potentially missing the cells - if the smaller panels can all move freely regardless of the other panels it will allow it to move to the optimum position for each panel whereas the large singular panel will have areas of high energy intake but also areas of low energy intake.
You do realize how far away the sun is from us, right? There's no point in making all the panels on the tree move freely. They should all have the same angle to gather the most energy. No, large panels don't have areas of high and low energy.

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Yes that's what I'm talking about, a regular cell array moving will beat out the tree every single time.
Exactly.
    
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I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet, but I mean of course he's 13.
He could also be 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 21, 34, 55, or 89.
Or maybe he'll just keep making coincidental revelations at these ages...
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Smart kid, Prob already has college scholarship lined up lol
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