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In my old computer, which was an Acer Aspire E360, I lagged in games when playing them for over an hour or so. Eventually I believed they may be overheating and looked into a way to monitor them.

I've used the following programs to check the temperatures and they all reported up to a maximum of 114C.
-Speccy
-CPUID HWMonitor
This worried me a little, but I was convinced that it was not reporting the true temperature and was in fact halved due to it being a Dual-Core, so I thought it was 57C.

I never experienced a BSOD or artifacts, but I was unable to Raid in World of Warcraft. The bottleneck was my CPU as I can now raid in WoW at 90FPS with the same GPU.

Do you think Speccy and HWMonitor could have been reporting a correct temp of 114C? This was during hot summer days with no Air Conditioning.



The CPU was an Athlon 64X2 4200+, clocked at 2.21GHz
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No.

I had a athlon 64x2 5200+ clocked at 2.6ghz, and it was "overheating", going over 100c and reseting the PC, turns out, i updated the bios and the actual temps where high 60's.

You have a bad reading on the thermal sensor.

A bios update should fix that problem.

All processors have a thermal shutdown temperature that you cant chance anywhere, and its about 100c, it shuts it self down to prevent damage, therefor your proc could never actually be running at 114c.
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Originally Posted by Shadow11377 View Post
In my old computer, which was an Acer Aspire E360, I lagged in games when playing them for over an hour or so. Eventually I believed they may be overheating and looked into a way to monitor them.

I've used the following programs to check the temperatures and they all reported up to a maximum of 114C.
-Speccy
-CPUID HWMonitor
This worried me a little, but I was convinced that it was not reporting the true temperature and was in fact halved due to it being a Dual-Core, so I thought it was 57C.

I never experienced a BSOD or artifacts, but I was unable to Raid in World of Warcraft. The bottleneck was my CPU as I can now raid in WoW at 90FPS with the same GPU.

Do you think Speccy and HWMonitor could have been reporting a correct temp of 114C? This was during hot summer days with no Air Conditioning.



The CPU was an Athlon 64X2 4200+, clocked at 2.21GHz
It's very possible.

Since it was a prebuilt it's very possible that either the TIM dried out or they did a horrible job of seating the heatsink.

Those kind of temps should have definitely lowered the lifespan of that chip.

And no you don't divide the temps reported by the number of cores, it's not exponential.

EDIT: I was unaware of the BIOS bug.
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No, it would have died in a week. Try a BIOS update.
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This worried me a little, but I was convinced that it was not reporting the true temperature and was in fact halved due to it being a Dual-Core, so I thought it was 57C.
That would mean the actual temp would be 114 x 2, AKA 228 C

Could possibly be a software issue, as I remember reading about some prebuilts that had wonky temp sensors/BIOS.
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Why is the threshold for activating the emergency shut down set so high, while the max. temperature specifications for most CPU's are set at a much lower temperature?
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impossible ... not even opterons will operate in those environment ... the temp threshold i think is 70c and they auto shutdown ...
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Did the temp reported by these programs vary?

If they did vary considerably depending on load, then yes, it's possible your CPU was getting to 114C. Not likely, but possible.

A BIOS/sensor issue is more likely, but most chips would survive, and even operate with superficial stability at 114C for quite a while, assuming stock speeds and volts.

As for thermal protection, Athlon 64s won't auto shutdown, without 3rd party BIOS support, until 125C.

See page 35: http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/31119.pdf

So yes, it's perfectly possible.

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Originally Posted by Fr0sty View Post
impossible ... not even opterons will operate in those environment ... the temp threshold i think is 70c and they auto shutdown ...
No.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lapengu View Post
No, it would have died in a week.
Not necessarily, or even likely.

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Originally Posted by Raizy View Post
Why is the threshold for activating the emergency shut down set so high, while the max. temperature specifications for most CPU's are set at a much lower temperature?
A good question.

Perhaps they don't want to force a shutdown (with potential data loss consequences) until the temp is high enough to damage the processor in the short term. They do state that this is only to kick in for catastrophic cooling failures (ie heatsink falls off or fan completely stops on a stock cooler). For day to day thermal protection, they rely on 3rd party board/bios implementations.
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so why in hell do everywhere that i look they state that the max operating temp is 65 - 69 for opterons then???


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post #10 of 18
Your CPU probably would've died by now. Probably a bad sensor.

Oh and Fr0sty, no. I've had my 955 go past 75C before, very stable, only a little pop-up that said "WARNING! CPU temperature 76 degrees centigrade!"

(For the record, that was really only for a couple minutes at 1.6v. I stay around 55C 24/7.)
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