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A friend of mine was debating about how to place a wireless router. He believes that the wireless should be tier 1, meaning, Cable Modem -> Wireless Router -> 8-port wired router, but I told him that it wouldn't make a difference if he put the Wireless Router after the 8-port wired router.

He's insisting that wireless router will have reduced connection speeds and priority will be given to the devices connected to the 8-port wired router. Is that true? And does a 8-port wired router give priority to ports in consecutive order, meaning port 1 will have priority over port 2 and so on?
 
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It wouldn't matter.

Just let him have it his way.

If he wants it to be modem > router > 8port, then he can. Since it can be that way.
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It doesn't matter either way will work same gigabit lan segments you're not
gonna see any the speed performance.
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It wouldn't matter.

Just let him have it his way.

If he wants it to be modem > router > 8port, then he can. Since it can be that way.
Can you explain in more technical terms?

Here is his problem, he has two Netgear WNDR3700 wireless routers, it is a 2 level flat and he lives on the first floor. The cable connection is on the first floor and he plans to send one Cat6 cable up to the 2nd floor and connect it to the 2nd WNDR3700 router, the 2nd level will have 4 free ports that will be routed to designated rooms.

The problem is on the first floor, with his computer taking up 1 port and the router upstairs taking up 1 port he is left with 2 ports and he needs 3 ports, short 1 port.

I told him to use a 8-port router and connect his wireless routers after them, that way he will have a total of 10-ports on 1st floor. But he is insisting if the wireless routers are on tier 2 they will have less priority and less bandwidth.

I told him bandwidth is how much you get from your ISP, priority is given to whichever device who draws bandwidth first, but he won't listen. Let me know if I am incorrect.
 
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really it wouldn't matter the only thing that would matter is if he would be using the firewall portion of the wireless router instead. not sure if switches have firewall firmware or not but if they do then thats how i would personally decide on which one came first. other then that its not going to matter. only thing you would have to do is if the wireless router is behind the 8 port then he'll have to disable DHCP through the router and use it as a switch as well
    
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The same physical lan segment he doesn't need to worry about bandwidth unless he's running a cluster nodes.
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8 port router is not a router, but a switch.

Internet -> Modem -> Router -> Switch
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Terms of priority wont be altered, but you wouldn't be able to tell if it was anyway. Wireless will be so much slower than the wired devices.

However as someone mentioned, if you split the connections with the wireless upstairs then the devices on the first floor will not be behind the firewall of the router. That may be the true benefit of having the wireless as the first device after the cable modem.
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8 port router is not a router, but a switch.

Internet -> Modem -> Router -> Switch
I was pretty confused between a switch and a router. When I look at a switch it just has a bunch of ports but no port to plug the cat5 cable coming from the modem. When I look at a 8-port wired router like this one there is a port for the cable modem, or do the labels do not matter?

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Terms of priority wont be altered, but you wouldn't be able to tell if it was anyway. Wireless will be so much slower than the wired devices.

However as someone mentioned, if you split the connections with the wireless upstairs then the devices on the first floor will not be behind the firewall of the router. That may be the true benefit of having the wireless as the first device after the cable modem.
Do you mean, for example, a router with 4-ports that all ports have equal access and there is no priority given to port 1 just because someone's PC is connected to port 1 unless I turn on QoS?
 
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Eh, everything but the WAN port is a switch. The router portion only facilitates WAN to LAN communication. Don't really keep up on consumer grade devices but interesting that they are bundling larger integrated switches.

There really won't be a difference but it doesn't seem very effective arguing over something you both don't really know much about.

There will be no priority determination depending on location of the devices. The only difference is that the devices off of the very end device will share a gigabit uplink to the rest of the LAN. Other than that, it's a FIFO (first in, first out) environment. There's no determination for priority and there will be absolutely no difference as far as a tangible difference in usage.
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