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Originally Posted by insyxion;14659225 
well.. question is how much improvement is gonna be over LGA2011 if is just couple % i'm so not buying that......

1. Double the Memory bandwidth
2. More PCIe Lanes
3. PCIe 3.0
4. 6 core processors

3930K - 6 cores / 12ht 12mb L3 = 589.99
3960X - 6 cores / 12ht 15Mb L3 = 999.99
3980X - 8 cores / 16 ht 20mb L3 = 1299.99 - Rumored
Edited by ecnelitsep - 8/21/11 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by Ishinomori;14662052 
the 3820 is not unlocked...

the 3930k is though, but that is $560

The 3820 WILL have baseclock overclocking though, so it should still make high numbers...
BCLK is the way to overclock.
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet;14662107 
From the charts/articles shown thus far, the lower end quad core LGA 2011 CPU will actually cost less than the Core i7 2600K. It will be be just under $300 if I remember right.

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Basically, it's similar to a Core i7 2600K, but with 100MHz more clock speed, 2MB more L2 cache, but will not be fully unlocked, hence it's not a "K" model CPU. It's multiplier will be locked, but you will be able to overclock it via the bclk like current LGA 1366 CPUs. In other words, it's arguably a bit worse, but does have the edge on L2 cache. In my opinion, it's seemingly no better than a Core i7 2600K, and almost certainly won't be better than what Ivy Bridge brings LGA 1155, so that CPU makes no sense. You have to go for the hex core offering for that platform/socket to make sense, which means if you want to get a six core CPU, you're ponying up almost at least $600 just for the CPU alone, and that gets you an entire LGA 1155 platform.

Of interest is why the Core i7 3820 has the same TDP than the other two, despite having two thirds the cores and threads, and more than the current Sandy Bridge quad core CPUs (which are 95W TDP if I remember right).

Edit: Ninja'd during my longer explanation.

It will have more cache, will most likely be a new stepping and OC further, will have more memory speed, and will be less.
    
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Originally Posted by HAF922;14662377 
I read a disappointing thread on another site this morning stating that Intel will not release a 4C 8T Ivy Bridge any time soon in 2012. Intel will milk the 2600K and greater SB line as long as they can because of the sucess, and only release a 2C 4T Ivy Bridge in early 2012.
Can you post a link/source? This is disappointing if so.
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Originally Posted by Anthraxinsoup;14665668 
It will have more cache, will most likely be a new stepping and OC further, will have more memory speed, and will be less.
More cache? Yes.

New stepping and overclock further? Nobody knows.

Memory speed? No, if you mean quad channel RAM, big whoop.

Cost less? Yes, but then you put extra money into the board/chipset, CPU cooler that it lacks (we mostly do this anyway, but still), and RAM.

According to that TDP, it also consumes more power, which generally means makes more heat.

In other words, it's no better, but not necessarily worse, than a Core i7 2600K. Here's my confusion though. Everyone on LGA 1366 says LGA 1155 isn't worth it, yet this will be the CPU they get (and turn around and rave about). Funny...
Edited by Princess Garnet - 8/22/11 at 12:39am
post #34 of 41
So if it is going to replace th LAG1366 as the Enthusiast socket, does that mean the LGA1155 socket will have a decent life span, and Intel will make new chips for it?
post #35 of 41
Yes, LGA 1155 will remain a current socket.
post #36 of 41
This is good news!
post #37 of 41
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet;14659323 
Also, is LGA 2011 confirmed to have eight RAM slots? If not, then it's not a factor anyway.

LGA-2011 CPUs will support two unbuffered DIMMs per channel, and there will be boards with eight DIMM slots. However, many boards will have four.
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Originally Posted by insyxion;14659348 
and what should we do with more ram?

Whatever you want.
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Originally Posted by insyxion;14659348 
games dont even use 4GB ram

LGA-2011 is an utter waste for a system that will do nothing but game.

Many tasks are vastly more memory hungry than gaming.
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet;14662107 
It's multiplier will be locked, but you will be able to overclock it via the bclk like current LGA 1366 CPUs.

Not quite like LGA-1366.

It appears that 2011 will have various ratios to keep things in spec at a few specific BCLK options other than default, but there will not be completely asynchronous buses that allow for free tuning of the BCLK like we have on LGA-1366 and many other platforms.
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet;14671122 
In other words, it's no better, but not necessarily worse, than a Core i7 2600K. Here's my confusion though. Everyone on LGA 1366 says LGA 1155 isn't worth it, yet this will be the CPU they get (and turn around and rave about). Funny...

I agree, I'm glad i upgrade my system on a impulse buy otherwise I would have waited for nothing. $590+ for a cpu, no thanks.
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I can't wait for Lga 2011 myself. It will be a rendering beast!!
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Originally Posted by Princess Garnet;14671122 
Can you post a link/source? This is disappointing if so.More cache? Yes.

New stepping and overclock further? Nobody knows.

Memory speed? No, if you mean quad channel RAM, big whoop.

Cost less? Yes, but then you put extra money into the board/chipset, CPU cooler that it lacks (we mostly do this anyway, but still), and RAM.

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There is no way that it will not OC higher, least gonna be a new stepping. The board won't cost all the much, 200/300 just like 1155.
    
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