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Thanks, I'll try that. What does the FSB Termination do?
its really hard to explain, but its kinda like VTT on an i7. kinda.

max safe volts for that CPU is 1.55v vcore and 1.55v FSB term. so dont be afraid to give it the beans if shes not cooperating.

pushing PLL and NB above 1.5ish is useless though at 400 FSB.
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That is some major vdroop, you will need to sort that out. On my lga775 board I had to do a hard mod to fix it and it made huge difference as you probably know. Are there different levels of LLC?
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That is some major vdroop, you will need to sort that out. On my lga775 board I had to do a hard mod to fix it and it made huge difference as you probably know. Are there different levels of LLC?
I know. Well I only got 3 options for LLC. Enabled, Disabled, and Auto. I've tried all 3 and all of them behave in the same way. Drops from 1.38 to 1.28. I'm using 1.45vcore for this.
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Well I managed to get it stable @ 3.6 ghz with 1.7 vcore which is no good. It idles @ 55c which is terrible considering I've got Megahallems on P/P.

It idles @ 1.576v and goes to 1.48 under load. This is definitely a LLC problem. How can I solve it?
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I've noticed something else as well... When the CPU is under load (3.6 Ghz), sometimes the core speed drops to 2.4 ghz according to both CPU-Z and Core Temp. Is that a fault with the CPU or the motherboard?
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I gave up on my Q6600 at 3.2Ghz, i needed 1.40v Vcore under load to be stable, luckily my LLC worked a charm. Could barely get 3.4Ghz stable, didnt even bother for more. It had VID 1.325v.
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I've noticed something else as well... When the CPU is under load (3.6 Ghz), sometimes the core speed drops to 2.4 ghz according to both CPU-Z and Core Temp. Is that a fault with the CPU or the motherboard?
likely thermal throttling from being too hot.

1.5v loaded is within what a bad chip should need for 3.6...but that droop is killing you atm.

look on the internet for a pencil mod, I guarantee there is one, that was a very common board back when it was new.
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Have you raised NB voltage?

55C at idle? I don't want to know your load temps. Something is not right with your cooling, 55C is load temp for my Q6600. You shouldn't be stress testing with temps that bad.

You shouldn't need to play with VTT for 3.6 on a Q6600, and 1.7VCore is out of control.

Bump your CPU multiple down to 6x, run 400FSB and see if you can pass 6 hrs of Prime Blend. Your RAM should be 1:1, making DDR2 800, double check your RAM speed. Turn off EIST and C states for now.
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likely thermal throttling from being too hot.

1.5v loaded is within what a bad chip should need for 3.6...but that droop is killing you atm.

look on the internet for a pencil mod, I guarantee there is one, that was a very common board back when it was new.
Yeah . I did a pencil mod on it and now LLC works the way it should.

That thermal throttling happened with 3 different CPUs so I had to turn the CPU TM function off.

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Have you raised NB voltage?

55C at idle? I don't want to know your load temps. Something is not right with your cooling, 55C is load temp for my Q6600.
Well I've switched the CPU and I'm using a QX6850 now. I'm having problems stablizing it though. Prime95 stops with an error about 2-10 minutes in @ 3.66 ghz (333 x 11). I've messed with NBv and FSB Termination voltage but they don't seem to work. I've raised the Vcore as high as 1.55 which is too much for the speed I'm going for and P95 still crashes. I really don't know what else to change.
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Thought I should drop by and say that one of the upper VRMs blew up so the board is now a dud .
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