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Did you ever adjust or disable powertune?
I have AMD overdrive disabled, I'll try uninstalling CCC now that I think about it.
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That says its a 4890 pcb in the URL and it says ATI on the die. Also you can tell its not a 6950 Toxic as look at the power connectors and display outputs.[/S]

Ok well it does look like there are slight differences between the reference and toxic.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...20Video%20Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...th%20Eyefinity

If you look at the back of those they seem to be the same so maybe OP could try to find a bios from the new Sapphire 6970 providing hes still having performance issues.
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That says its a 4890 pcb in the URL and it says ATI on the die. Also you can tell its not a 6950 Toxic as look at the power connectors and display outputs.
Did i miss something here?
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Did i miss something here?
I pasted the wrong image link.

Post has been fixed.

There are considerable differences between the 6950 Toxic and the reference 6950/6970.
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That says its a 4890 pcb in the URL and it says ATI on the die. Also you can tell its not a 6950 Toxic as look at the power connectors and display outputs.


Ok well it does look like there are slight differences between the reference and toxic.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...20Video%20Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageG...th%20Eyefinity

If you look at the back of those they seem to be the same so maybe OP could try to find a bios from the new Sapphire 6970 providing hes still having performance issues.
I looked for the 6970 Toxic Bios, can't seem to find it. I'm not sure why Sapphire doesn't put them on their site.
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I looked for the 6970 Toxic Bios, can't seem to find it. I'm not sure why Sapphire doesn't put them on their site.
Thats not a toxic, its just their new 6970. This one says sapphire cooler in the heading so it might be worth a shot.
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/9...48.110109.html
 
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I have AMD overdrive disabled, I'll try uninstalling CCC now that I think about it.
This does nothing to powertune.

Indeed without access to overdrive, you are stuck at default TDP if you don't use 3rd party utilities to disable it (MSI AB is the only one i know of that can, and I'm not sure if that feature will work on your PCB).

I'm willing to bet that PowerTune is the source of your issues.

Either try disabling it with MSI AB, or use CCC/overdrive and set it to +20%.

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Thats not a toxic, its just their new 6970. This one says sapphire cooler in the heading so it might be worth a shot.
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/9...48.110109.html
Comparing the Device IDs will tell.
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Originally Posted by nagle3092 View Post
Thats not a toxic, its just their new 6970. This one says sapphire cooler in the heading so it might be worth a shot.
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/9...48.110109.html
Ahh I see, deceptive I tell you!! They use the exact same shroud!!! Damn, still doesn't explain why they didn't put up the BIOS's for the 6950 Toxic.

EDIT:
Found something interesting reading the OverClockersClub review

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I seemed to have been a lucky contender in the quest for speed, as I was able to flash this card with the Sapphire HD6970 BIOS and unlock the extra cores and the higher stock memory speed. So, I went from an out-of-the-box speed of 880/1300 to 880/1375 and from 1408 shader cores to 1536. That's roughly a 10% increase in shader cores, and if results correlate, I should see some similar results. Below is a picture of the overclocked speeds I was able to obtain on both the stock an
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...oxic_2gb/4.htm

It states he FLASHED the bios, not just switched, so I'm thinking he actually used another BIOS, especially considering he also states he went from 880/1300 to 880/1375 directly. As when Kit Guru and myself switched the BIOS, the memory clocks stayed the same. I'm thinking maybe it is a BIOS problem.
Edited by OrangeBunnies - 8/21/11 at 7:07pm
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Comparing the Device IDs will tell.
Device IDs are the same but Subsystem IDs are different, not sure if that means anything.
 
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Sapphire doesn't put up GPU BIOSes becuase they don't want end-users flashing their cards; very few companies do.
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