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Well it has a dual bios switch for a reason. You could just oc it and see if performance falls around what the review get (granted the system variables).
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
Sapphire doesn't put up GPU BIOSes becuase they don't want end-users flashing their cards; very few companies do.
Sapphire released BIOS for their 5xxx line, http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...=&lid=1&leg=0#
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I'm reminded of the time I forgot to clear out my old ATI settings when switching from a 4870 to a 4890 and going WUT WHY ARE MY BENCHES ALL THE SAME

and then feeling like a moron when I realized I had manual memory and GPU speeds for a slower card.
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I looked at Sapphires line up and they only have two physically different versions of the 6970, and the product number the BIOS nagle found looks to be correct for the one that uses the 6950 Toxic PCB.

I still don't know why you haven't tested increasing the TDP limit with overdrive, it takes all of 5 minutes and will confirm or rule out powertune being the issue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeBunnies View Post
Sapphire released BIOS for their 5xxx line, http://www.sapphiretech.com/presenta...=&lid=1&leg=0#
An exception to the general rule.

Missing features and bugfixes are one thing, but I haven't seen any major manufacturers keep an archived list of BIOSes for their GPUs publicly available, which is why BIOS collection sites exist and request users to submit dumps.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
I looked at Sapphires line up and they only have two physically different versions of the 6970, and the product number the BIOS nagle found looks to be correct for the one that uses the 6950 Toxic PCB.

I still don't know why you haven't tested increasing the TDP limit with overdrive, it takes all of 5 minutes and will confirm or rule out powertune being the issue.



An exception to the general rule.

Missing features and bugfixes are one thing, but I haven't seen any major manufacturers keep an archived list of BIOSes for their GPUs publicly available, which is why BIOS collection sites exist and request users to submit dumps.
I've uninstalled CCC to rule out the problem, unless I'm misunderstanding how this powertune works, I'm not too familiar with it. But I will re-install it now and test it.

Also I stand corrected about the BIOS being available, I'm just a bit frustrated right now with this problem, sorry about that.
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Quote:
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unless I'm misunderstanding how this powertune works
You are.

PowerTune is not part of CCC, it's part of the card's BIOS. CCC is the only official way to adjust it.

The default setting on PowerTune cripples performance in many situations, including certain games.
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Problem has been solved.


The problem was in fact Catalyst Control Center's PowerTune. Apparently if you don't install CCC or have it disabled it automatically reduces the wattage the card receives, so you have to install CCC and have over-drive enabled with PowerTune set to max.

It would also appear that if you install CCC after TRIXX, the PowerTune will reset itself after any changes, so I had to re-install them in order.

Thank you everyone for taking the time to read and reply to my questions, I feel kind of silly, all of this turning out to be nothing but a simple setting issue, but I'm glad it was a simple mistake and not some notorious BIOS or physical problem. I had a similar problem regarding a GTX580 recently and it really frustrated me and I could never figure out what the problem was so I gave up and sold the card because of it, in addition because I bought it used and I wasn't comfortable without having a warranty either.


Thanks again everyone, I will update the original post with this message and I will run benchmarks and play some games and post the results sometime this week for all of those who maybe thinking about getting a 6950/6970.
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Glad you figured it out. Your GTX580 problems likely stemmed from a similar issue. The 5xx line has similar overcurrent protection that will throttle the card past a certain TDP.

Also note that if you are stress testing, or intend to OC more than very modestly, even the +20% setting won't be enough. I had to disable powertune completely with MSI AB to make any OC past 900MHz worth using.
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This is great to hear that the card comes with a 6970 Bios preloaded. Just picked up a couple of them today. Monday I will be taking the cooling of and installing my GPU waterblocks. Cool and quite go hand in hand
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Good to see that it got fixed. Blamless how do you disable powertune with AB?
 
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