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I've been looking at comparisons of how much certain timings affect benchmarks, and one of the biggest besides cl is suppose to be tREF. However, on all of my motherboards, there is no option to change it.

Not sure if this timing is limited to certain platforms only. confused.gif
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Try this, not sure if it works.

http://www.tweakers.fr/cputweaker.html
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Edit: My mistake I though you were refering to tRFC.

tREF interval isn't adjustable on many boards. Actually, the last board I remember being able to adjust it on was an NForce4 DFI board.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dopamin3;14669198 
Try this, not sure if it works.

http://www.tweakers.fr/cputweaker.html

I don't believe CPU tweaker supports Sandy Bridge yet.
Edited by Blameless - 8/21/11 at 8:09pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless;14669238 
Ref cycle time is tREF.

Personally, I've never seen it as much of a performance tweak, but loosening it has been critical for achieving stability with a large amount of memory on some of my systems.



I don't believe CPU tweaker supports Sandy Bridge yet.

yep.. can't find it in any of my bios... and no it doesn't frown.gif

the higher tREF is, the more performance supposedly.It didn't boost any of your scores? super pi? or wprime?

EDIT: yea i thought that was weird... i can change tRFC, not tREF (tREF is measured in ms 1-10ms etc)
Edited by badatgames18 - 8/21/11 at 8:12pm
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Corrected my previous post, refresh cycle time and refresh interval are two different things.

Nearly every enthusiast board allows adjustment of the former, but being able to adjust the latter is rare, at least on recent setups.
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