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So, which one would be good for gaming, music, and some videos/movies (not much actually. I rarely watch movies)?
You can't really be asking that question because it would really be all of them. They're all great headphones.
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Okay. So, which one would be best for the price? I'm leaning towards the HD650's.

I've been looking at the Maverick Audio A1 and D1 every since I began looking at audiophile grade products and they seem like great pair together. Are they good or is a receiver a better deal?

Edit: I'm trying to compare the headphones using Headroom's graph tool.




Edited by HybridCore - 8/23/11 at 5:09am
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There's no point buying a receiver just for headphones, your money will be much better spent on a DAC and headphone amp. From reading a few of your posts in several threads I get the impression that you might be confusing speaker output power (e.g.70 watts per channel etc) with the ability to drive headphones, the speaker and headphone outputs are completely unrelated. A 100W/pc amp might struggle to drive 300OHM headphones while a 30W/pc amp might drive 600OHM headphones fine. (That's unlikely but just an example).

The headphone output stages on receivers are not a "big" feature, the manufactures don't give them anywhere near the attention that the speaker output stages have whereas a headphone amp is built with the sole purpose of providing enough power for a pair of headphones, it will be better value for money.
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There's no point buying a receiver just for headphones, your money will be much better spent on a DAC and headphone amp. From reading a few of your posts in several threads I get the impression that you might be confusing speaker output power (e.g.70 watts per channel etc) with the ability to drive headphones, the speaker and headphone outputs are completely unrelated. A 100W/pc amp might struggle to drive 300OHM headphones while a 30W/pc amp might drive 600OHM headphones fine. (That's unlikely but just an example).

The headphone output stages on receivers are not a "big" feature, the manufactures don't give them anywhere near the attention that the speaker output stages have whereas a headphone amp is built with the sole purpose of providing enough power for a pair of headphones, it will be better value for money.
I'm pretty sure I have since I couldn't find the specs for the headphone output anywhere. I probably won't use speakers so I guess getting a DAC and amp would be better. Are there any DAC's and amps you would recommend?

Edit: portable ones would be nice too as I would like to bring my headphones with me if I go somewhere for a long time.
Edited by HybridCore - 8/23/11 at 5:23am
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The amp I have, the Millet Minimax can be unbeatable for the price, I took it to a HeadFi meet a few years ago and it stood up to amps costing several times more. It's a DIY amp, so if you have the skills to build it then it's fantastic value, if you don't then you should be able to find someone to build it for you for a small cost. I had mine built by Soloz2, he did a great job. It pairs really well with the HD600/650 and the D5000. It might not be the best candidate for the HD650 though, depending on the components you choose it could end up emphasizing the 'dark' side of the HD650 which some valve amps do. I've not heard anything else in your pricerange so would only be repeating what I've read elsewhere.

As for DACs, there is so much choice, I have the DACMagic but I've not really compared it to much other than the Musical Fidelity V-DAC, the differences were negligible. I've heard quite a few other DACs but not with my own system to it's hard to compare, I'll leave the DAC recommendations to someone else
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post #36 of 105
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Thanks tUDJ for clearing up the mess I've made with myself. I will look into those. Any other DAC and amp recommendations.

Edit: for portable amps (such as when I travel and I only have my laptop and headphones), I'm looking at the FiiO E6 and E7. The NuForce DAC's seem pretty good too.
Edited by HybridCore - 8/23/11 at 5:42am
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My opinion is that you should go for closed back ones. They have more bass and usually better sound quality.
    
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They have more bass and usually better sound quality.
More bass, yes but better sound quality? How so?
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More bass, yes but better sound quality? How so?
Most of the closed back headphones I have used have better sound quality than open back headphones. I think it could have something to do with keeping the sound in better or it could just be that the open back headphones I have used before just weren't all that good.
    
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Most of the closed back headphones I have used have better sound quality than open back headphones. I think it could have something to do with keeping the sound in better or it could just be that the open back headphones I have used before just weren't all that good.
I think it's probably the latter, although open and closed have different characteristics neither is necessarily better than the other. It's highly subjective too, you might like the fact that closed headphones 'keep the sound in' but other people really enjoy the opposite, an open and airy soundstage.

My comments aren't directly aimed at you, I was just curious as to what you meant and didn't want others misinterpreting what you were saying.
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