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Hi

first post so please be gentle.

was building for about 5 years .. then i switched to laptops, so Ive been kinda out the game for a year or so. but i though it was like riding a bike, but noooo, i fried two mobo... so after 3 months of off and on trying i give up!

and so my question, I can get my hands on a Dell T110 really cheap, it has a Pentium CPU (G6950), and I want to learn how to PC game, my previous PC's were for media etc. i never learned how to PC game.

what price conscious upgrades would you guys recommend? CPU?GFX?
(I was already looking at the KFA2 GF 450 1GB, and I know it needs RAM)


thanks

Dava
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post #2 of 8
Oh wow.

Umm...

Well, I've been out of budget gaming for a little while but let's start it off: What exactly are you getting for your Dell T110 and for how much? Does it come with RAM or any other PC parts? Once you provide that information we can better determine if we can turn it into a budget gaming machine or if it would be better to start fresh (if you wanted to do that).

Also, welcome to OCN!
Edited by Gearbox - 8/22/11 at 2:46am
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post #3 of 8
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Thanks Gearbox

it's got 2.8 ghz FCLGA1156 Dual core, 1GB ECC 1333mhz, 400w PSU, DVD optical sata, 250gb 7200rpm sata and I did some research on the mobo, it has a physical x16 PCIE that runs at x8. it's going for £180.

I have loads of things laying around that i could use..but i'd rather not, as i don't know which was the culprit. but ill put my drives in and my LG bluray.

I don't know if it would need a CPU upgrade, (dual core, new nm, new socket) I hope not, so saving me money, but i'd like to just buy a good GFX card for around £150 or less, that way I'll of gained a usable PC at the very least if i don't get the hang of PC gaming.

(lol I could put a long and pos. interesting post why i'm doing this, but that's prolly for another time )

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I remember reading some slickdeals threads about the T110 (though they may have changed specs) but from what I remember it's not easy to convert this model to a desktop. I think the BIOS refuses to work with alot of videocards and most people were using usb soundcards since it lacked standard pci slots. I`m thinking you need to do alot of googling about this specific model to see what hardware people have used successfully.
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The rule of thumb is: In 2011 you should be able to build a respectable budget gaming PC for about $500 (roughly £350).

Please take a look at the link below as another person has tried to do the same thing you've done:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1470095

I've personally done a Dell PowerEdge 400SC to Desktop PC thing back in 2006 and while I did get it working, you have to be resourceful. Since you're going to try and play games on it, I'm sure you're going to be deviating from a server OS. By doing so, you relinquish all support from Dell and you're left to find driver support directly from the manufacturers of what's on the motherboard (e.g. FoxConn, Intel, Realtek, etc.) Some drivers at the Dell website may work on a desktop OS (e.g. Windows 7), but it's a 50/50 chance and you'll probably spend a bit of time getting everything working together.

If that already sounds like too much of a hassle to you (it certainly was back then for me), please direct yourself to this site in which you basically obtain a set of computer parts depending on your price range and start from scratch.

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/b...c-august-2011/

The CPU from the T110 is on par, if only slightly better, than some of the lower-priced CPUs on the guide. Although you're offering a budget of up to £150 for the card, I personally feel that's too powerful for the rest of your computer to utilize its graphics to its full potential.

Let's say your CPU is okay. You still lack RAM. Try and aim for 4GB of RAM that will work on your motherboard.

After that, pick a video card that fits your price range from here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...orce,2997.html. I wouldn't go with anything over $200 because that would seem like overkill. I would personally go with the GTX 460 but it's your call.

After that, I would double-check the PSU if it supports the wattage requirements. 400W with a video card is dangerous territory, but I would double-check exactly how much watts your PC will be using by using a power supply calculator on the internet.

But the one thing I really want you to check out: Add the prices of everything that you're going to buy with your T110. If it exceeds £350, I highly recommend building it from scratch, or have another company build it if you still feel risky about frying motherboards (it happens).

Good luck!
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post #6 of 8
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Thank you guys.

thank you so much Gearbox, i didn't realize it would be hassle..

I was going to put Ubuntu 11.04 x64 and Win7 x64 prem on it. it was really the cost and less hassle i was doing it for, (if i bought it one month for £180 and then £120 graphics card the next i could break up the payments). I have a Zalman 850w heatsink PSU, but that may be one of the suspects to my mobo troubles. odd thing: all the components worked separately but not together..? :S

I'll go over your post again, give it a thorough read and weigh up my options.

thanks again


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post #7 of 8
The best way to upgrade a dell is to throw it out the window and start from scratch.

/sarcasm off

Honestly, there are too many limiting factors that come into play when upgrading a prebuilt, that it is in the user's best interest, price/performance wise to start over, and build it themselves.
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The draw back to building is i think i have lost my 'touch'. not that it was anything special anyway :S

also all the components laying around my house.. and i don't know if it was colonel mustard in the dining room with the candle stick. ala~ which component killed those two mobos.


here's what i have Phenom 9550 x 4, Zalman 850w PSU (only two years old), i think all my ram is knackered, so ill prolly get more.. tho 1 stick was working in another comp, HD2400 256MB needs upgraded for gaming, lots of drives. I also have a Luna case that I like

i was thinking today a barebones prebuilt? anyone know any good deals?
I'll be looking on eBay anyway :]

To be honest my 'bottles crashed' in other words i have lost my confidence in building.
I have built around 5 systems, and have rebuilt my own loads of times, but I would need someone there to help out, also to increase my confidence, but theres no-one. pretty sad huh?


anyhoo

thanks, the help has eased me a bit, i feel a bit better and in the know about server/desktop conversion

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