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Tbh I don't notice this so called "microstutter" issue. Than again I haven't played a game yet where my framerates average below 60. I do notice dips where my framerate drops drastically. Sigh can't do much about that I suppose its the effect of weaker cards. Still quite shady of AMD and NVIDIA not to allow 3 way on their more affordable cards.
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Originally Posted by razaice View Post
Microstutter is a myth created by "The Man" to keep us down.
And yet Tom's a website who's livelyhood depends on getting free hardware from "the man" in order to provide content and reviews wrote a negative article about said hardware....

It would be in their best interest to debunk the micro-stutter "myth" now wouldn't it
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post #143 of 177
It's 2011 folks. Why are people trying to talk like microstutter is still a mystery? We know what it is and why it happens, and anybody who has owned multi-GPU setups can notice it if they're looking. People like myself notice it even when trying to ignore it... and that's the reason I'll never SLI ever again.

The point of this article was the comparison (nVidia wins again, shock), not proving it exists. I'm baffled people can even think it doesn't at this point.
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been experiencing micro stuttering with my 5970 ever since i owned it.
 
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post #145 of 177
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu View Post
haha, love how this thread has been voted down to 2 star just because some are butt-hurt with their dual-card heater.


microstutter is defined as large varying frame render time. even a slight change in FPS could mean a single frame has taken twice longer to render than most other frames. in another words, looking at FPS graph are meaningless. Tom's article is trying to say that dual-GPU doesn't really produce smooth enough experience simply because one frame could take 1ns while the next could take 1s. of course if both frames take 0.5s would be a smoother experience. but both would be recorded as 2 FPS.




Brettjv's post he linked is a well written OCn version of same explanation:
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9901...on-thread.html
Annnnd the whole problem with this theory: Even with a single GPU setup, there can (and will be) differences in how long it takes to draw one frame to the next. If this were the cause of "microstutter" it would be happening on single GPU setups as well.

It's not like just because you have a single card that magically all frames are drawn in exactly the same amount of time.

Personally, I have yet to see "microstutter" on my 460 SLI. Conversely, I could argue you're just butthurt that you spent over 150 dollars more than I did for the same performance.
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post #146 of 177
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Annnnd the whole problem with this theory: Even with a single GPU setup, there can (and will be) differences in how long it takes to draw one frame to the next. If this were the cause of "microstutter" it would be happening on single GPU setups as well.

It's not like just because you have a single card that magically all frames are drawn in exactly the same amount of time.

Personally, I have yet to see "microstutter" on my 460 SLI. Conversely, I could argue you're just butthurt that you spent over 150 dollars more than I did for the same performance.
Single GPU setups get microstutter too, it's just a lot harder to get it to be noticeable than a dual GPU setup.

That said, I've never seen Microstutter and I had CFX HD4890s...And this was when the GTX 480 was still relatively new.
    
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Microstutter is a myth created by "The Man" to keep us down.



What sort of issues are there when running dual cards in cooperative rather than frame swap mode?
    
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been experiencing micro stuttering with my 5970 ever since i owned it.
Nice to see some honest folk posting here, unlike the below quoted example:

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Originally Posted by pursuinginsanity View Post
I have yet to encounter "microstuttering" with my 460s. Had them.. 8-10 months I guess.

There was a thread just a few ago where a guy was asking which was less prone to MS.. Nvidia or AMD, everyone told him AMD. Perhaps they should read this article.


Riiight. Either you only play a handful of games that support SLI/run at over 60FPS with one card anyway, or you're just lying; I've had stuttering on my single GTX 460 when GPU usage dropped, as if I'd want to double the amount of problems with my current cards by getting another.

Back on topic though, I never saw the point of multi-card setups anyway: if one isn't good enough to run a certain game at wanted settings, wait for next card that IS; that's always been my rule.
    
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Cant say ive experienced it yet (and heres hoping i dont) but ive only had it setup for a week. I get random flicking textures though, and occasional black screen issue, but i can put up with it because its only happened a couple of times.
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Here's my biggest problem with toms article. They only covered one game. I'd like to see Min, max, and median FPS rates in a ton of games to truly determine if microstutter is as bad as people make it seem to be. Also, by nature ever card gets "microstutter" in xfire or sli it's just more pronounced potentially.
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