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post #51 of 177
gave up SLI GTX470s for a GTX580 for reasons of input lag (inherent to CF/SLI's AFR) and microstutter

IMO multi GPU setups are only practical for enjoying higher levels of eyecandy at moderate frame rates, and not for increasing frame rates to make the experience playable let alone gain a competitive advantage
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post #52 of 177
I love my 6950's. Rarely have I noticed any sort of microstutter.
 
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post #53 of 177
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Originally Posted by Bonzâ„¢ View Post
I love my 6950's. Rarely have I noticed any sort of microstutter.
Have not had any microstutter on my 6950s either.
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post #54 of 177
I think this review is very silly indeed. Our eyes cannot pickup the fluctuations of milliseconds it takes to process each frame. All wee see are slight differences in 10s of frames per second. These jumps in performance they talk about are also very erratic, I've never seen my cards dip and jump in performance like that, they always provide a smooth and uniform framerate, with miniscule fluctuations, which are not noticeable at all. Their system must be unstable LOL

Edit: dips into the low 30s are obviously going to be more erratic as cards can be seen to cope with certain sections even less easily, two cards are going to perform less harmoniously and this will be more apparent when the cards cannot pull many more fps, but who plays with their cards at a struggle? Turn the settings down - simple, I've just solved the micro stuttering problem.
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It seems to be more about CF than SLI, or even CF vs SLI.

In fact when push came to shove and they needed to draw a "conclusion" they had nothing but a bias tone within a three sentence conclusion when forced to comment on Nvidia.

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Nvidia's approach is much more consistent, though its own SLI technology doesn't side-step micro-stuttering entirely. At least the company's high-end cards work together the way we'd expect. However, sporadic micro-stuttering brings us back to reality time and again. Cards like the GeForce GTX 550 Ti seem to be wasted on a SLI setup for this reason alone, achieving decent frame rates in the charts and nasty micro-stuttering in the real world.
    
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Not sure where you're getting this from. I get just over gtx 580 performance and I only spent 260 dollars after rebates.

Microstuttering is a non-issue because I literally haven't seen it in one game I've played.

There's a test that was done by an OCN user that showed empirically that a SINGLE 5870 had more microstuttering than a 5970. Microstuttering isn't only a multi-gpu issue, and to be honest it's not an issue at all in my case. I'll do some digging and find that test
here it is.

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...d-results.html
post #57 of 177
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Originally Posted by Bonz™ View Post
I love my 6950's. Rarely have I noticed any sort of microstutter.
They've fixed the microstutter with the recent patches and the 6000 series upscales better in crossfire compared to the 5000 series.
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I have yet to encounter "microstuttering" with my 460s. Had them.. 8-10 months I guess.

There was a thread just a few ago where a guy was asking which was less prone to MS.. Nvidia or AMD, everyone told him AMD. Perhaps they should read this article.
Same, but my resolution is only 1920x1080. If had the chance to rebuy my monitor, I probably would've picked up something that was around 1200p, but I'm quite happy with my rig as it is and with this resolution, it's a rarity for me to ever see significant frame drops or even micro stuttering (with the exception of MMORPGs).
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Actually, both brands fair well with NF200. The additional bandwidth it adds is beneficial to both. If you're going to 3/4-way, even on x58 you have to have NF200 to maintain x16 PCIe lanes for every card. 4-way requires 2 NF200 chips(Maximum Extreme extender, Gigabyte X58A-UD9). AMD will let you run 8x for 4-way but 16x will give you better results when frame swapping higher resolutions.
My point is the extra latency would definitely not help AMD cards, especially if they're pushing more data through the PCIe lanes than the nVidia cards, unless that data is just going to the NF200.

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I have 2 identical GTX 275s and have experienced microstuttering quite a few times in different game titles. It is very annoying and makes me not want to do SLI/CF ever again.
Coincidentally, I never got microstutter with the HD4890 CFX I had.

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if nvidia kept 3dfx's sli there would be 0% Micro-Stuttering and no need for sli mobo and driver hacks

but then we would have to have 100% identical cards, even down to the BIOS and memory type and timings
It wouldn't work as well simply because the cards are so much faster, they'd need to change a lot to not cause massive bottlenecks.
    
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thank you very much
    
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