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post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hiya folks!

Please bear with me - I am totally new to overclocking, and having even built a pc since Dual Core days.
Trying to unrustify, but I need a quick solution to my existing system's ram issues, and it will take me quite a while to work it all out myself.

The problem:
My pre-built, pre-oc'd system needs more RAM.

I use a lot of 3d rendering software, and I run virtual machines and would LIKE to keep at least one of them running pretty much 24/7.

I only have 4GB ram, and it's a pain rendering things, let alone trying to run a VM and do anything else.

Now... the PC came overclocked - the CPU is OC'd to a stable 4GHz.
The current RAM doesn't matter - I might hang on to it, or just dump it onto ebay and hope to make a quid or two back on the cost of the new ram.
The warranty of the PC says I can't change my OC, but the PC is from Overclockers UK and they're pretty good about things, and I have talked to them already about changing the RAM and adjusting the OC.

If I wanted to put 8GB in, that would be fine with the current OC, and they've suggested an 8GB kit that I could just drop in and it would all work fine.

I'm looking at 16GB though.
They said that the rig hasn't been tested with 16GB, and I'd probably end up having to drop the OC a bit for it to be stable.

Basically, I'm wondering a couple of things:

1) Is it worth it? Will 8GB be enough for me to cope, and run a mostly permanent VM, as well as doing 3d rendering and playing games and stuff?

2) Bearing in mind I only have an i5 in the machine, not an i7, will the jump to 16GB over 8GB be a huge difference?
I was thinking that 16GB would make a huge difference simply because the cpu isn't so good.
Is that right?

3) How would I go about dropping the OC without breaking my pc? Hehe.
I know, this is a total newbie help how do I OC it, question, but I really don't want to screw this up.
Would the OC have to be dropped a lot? In which case, would it then be worth it to get the additional 8GB?


I'm sorry for really basic questions, I know I need to learn a lot about OCing, but this is something I want to upgrade this week if possible, and with the amount of painkillers I'm on, it'll take me ages to read through all the guides and get the info into my brain.

Thanks for reading!

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post #2 of 6
Going to 8Gb's will help, but I agree with what you've been told, going to 16Gb, is a big difference, and will put much more stress on your cpu's IMC. I think your overclock would need to be lowered a bit, possibly just a small bit, to keep it stable and cool.

Faster/Higher frequency ram will also help. You should look for some 1866MHz, or 2000MHz ram.

Lowering your overclock is easy, but would need to know some specific bios settings, before changing anything.

IMO, I think you'd be best off with an 8Gb set of DDR3-2000
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post #3 of 6
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Thanks for the quick, very helpful reply!
I think you're right - just upgrade to 8GB and it'll be nice and easy, and spend my time learning about ocing to build my bf's pc. At least that way I have a nice, stable pc that I don't have to mess around with :-)

Thanks for the help!

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post #4 of 6
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Oh, I just checked and the 8GB DDR3 kit they recommended is a 1600MHZ Kit.

This is the one recommended: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...odid=MY-094-KS

They said that would slot into the OC easily with no changes. Would I need to change anything for faster RAM?

I can post my BIOS settings if that helps?

Sorry for more questions!

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post #5 of 6
So your i5, is it a 2500K Sandy???

Sorry it took so long for a reply.
I know these are more expensive, but they are also a much better set!
G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=8&subcat=1517
Edited by Inteller - 8/28/11 at 9:35pm
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post #6 of 6
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I wish it was a Sandy :-)

It's just an i5 760.

Thanks for the reply, I will get that kit today!
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