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shephard waittttttttttttttt!! I want a pc so badly... but are already in the disco we just have to dance a little bit more!!!!!

less than a month this chip will be out!!! and then you can choose what do you want to buy
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This all looked... old. I want... benchmarks.

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Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
For the love of St Pete, BD is NOT, I repeat, is NOT the same as SB.
I'm with the guy above. I thought it was bridgedozer.

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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
Sandy Bridge is the code name for Intel's current main stream CPU architecture.

Bulldozer is AMD's new architecture.
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Quote:
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Sandy Bridge is the code name for Intel's current main stream CPU architecture.

Bulldozer is AMD's new architecture.



Northbridge is a term that has gotten more vague over the the years.

Initially the memory controller was on the chipset, namely the IC closer to the CPU that also usually contained the AGP or PCI-E buses.

After the memory controller, and later PCI-E bus (in some cases) were moved on-die, the "northbridge" became integrated. However, many boards continued to use chipsets that had two primary ICs, and so continued to call the one closer to the CPU/top of the board the northbridge.
Yes, I understand this. What I am curious about is exactly what THIS on-chip Northbridge is supposed to do. It looks like it will have an on chip memory controller (NB) AND use a traditional on motherboard NB, but only for graphics interface and SB/IO control. This is the first I have heard of this. Everything I have heard until this article indicated that BD would use a traditional NB setup.
    
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I'm sick of waiting, sometimes I get this voice in my head that says go buy sandybridge and don't look back.
Do it, I don't regret it.
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Proof? That's common sense my friend..

These modules are cores, AMD have just shared some of the circuits.

In a nut shell AMD noticed that certain parts of a chip lay idles while others are constantly working and by studying this even more they came to the conclusion that certain parts of a chip can actually supply more then 2 cores with data without causeing any problems with stalling.

As an example a normal non-bulldozer core has its own tasking and execution logic, Now the task logic in normal chips sit idle most of the time wile the execution logic does it's thing. It's this behavior that AMD noticed and came to the conclusion that 1 task logic can supply enough data to keep 2 execution logic circuits fed with data. The benefits to this are huge, By effectivly halfing the amount of task logic needed they've saved transistor count and also reduced power consumtion and heat out put.

It's actually very clever on AMD's part imo....
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I'm that close to pull the trigger But I shall wait
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Originally Posted by Cmdr.Shephard View Post
I'm sick of waiting, sometimes I get this voice in my head that says go buy sandybridge and don't look back.
Why don't you go? Are you scared you'll regret it? I mean 4.6Ghz on a Hyper 212+ is pretty terrible

I hate to quote that 12 year old Seronx but BLT.com has the Bulldozer Opteron's scheduled to arrive on 10-10-11 and i could have sworn JF said the server BD's would come before the desktop ones.

Kinda feel bad for all of you waiting. I feel the same way about SB-E. I want IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm sick of waiting, sometimes I get this voice in my head that says go buy sandybridge and don't look back.
Im in the same boat as you.

I cant see any incentive to wait for Bulldozer now that it's been delayed again and again and will probably launch a couple of weeks before Sandy Bridge-E.

Im also really disappointed with the 990FX motherboards in that they don't have PCIE 3.0, at least if I go SB-E I know I will have forward compatibility with the next gen AMD and Nvidia GPU's.

If your gonna wait I suggest holding out for SB-E and then making a decision because as others have posted it appears Bulldozer will not be readily available until well into October anyway.
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Im in the same boat as you.

I cant see any incentive to wait for Bulldozer now that it's been delayed again and again and will probably launch a couple of weeks before Sandy Bridge-E.

Im also really disappointed with the 990FX motherboards in that they don't have PCIE 3.0, at least if I go SB-E I know I will have forward compatibility with the next gen AMD and Nvidia GPU's.

If your gonna wait I suggest holding out for SB-E and then making a decision because as others have posted it appears Bulldozer will not be readily available until well into October anyway.
Sandy Bridge-E has been delayed until Q1 2012. Bulldozer will be out in September. We will probably see sever parts first before we see desktop. At least that is what the signs are pointing to.
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