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Sorry for the assumption, it's just that most people interested enough to look up presentation slides on platform architecture have stumbled across the less obscure stuff many times already.

I appreciate the desire to educate one's self and do not mean to discourage it.



That image just shows that SB-E is very nearly double everything in a current SB (except the IGP which is gone).

You can see the rough locations of the various components: 8 cores, nearly double the L3 cache, more memory controllers, etc.
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Ah ok.
Well as long as dozer meets or beats sb, im happy. So with ur explination, bd should beat sb...right?

Sry cant quote properly with zune hd lol
    
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meh just give me a friggin FX 8100 or 6100 so i wont be bottlenecked anymore. Its quite annoying when you cpu holds you back


And this proves that snb e is bigger.
What is that supposed to do performance?
And theyre 2 completly different archs. You cant
compare by looking at a die shot.

Sent from my zune hd cuz i can
Your X3 would be a bottleneck to 6870's in crossfire,not sure about a quad.
SNB-E is supposed to have a huge cache,the cores appear to be larger too.
BD and SNB-E are 2 completely different architectures,you can't compare those two.
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Ah ok.
Well as long as dozer meets or beats sb, im happy. So with ur explination, bd should beat sb...right?l
I have no idea.

Unless AMD has really screwed something up, it should handle heavily threaded tasks better than quad core SB chips.

I would be fairly surprised if it could compete on core for core performance however.
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It was nearly 2 months ago that I invested in one of the new 990 series chipsets ready for Bulldozer, I nearly swapped back to Intel leaving them after the first 'Core' architecture release. God damn do I need a chip upgrade, and I ain't investing in an intermediate CPU. At this rate, Ivy Bridge will be released in quick succession to the Bulldozer FX-Series, and AMD will be well behind again.

So many people on this board seem to have already ditched AMD in the wait.
    
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I have no idea.

Unless AMD has really screwed something up, it should handle heavily threaded tasks better than quad core SB chips.

I would be fairly surprised if it could compete on core for core performance however.
This is exactly how i feel on the matter. But I see the core for core performance being slightly behind Nehalem (IMO, that isn't a bad thing)
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What a disaster, been waiting since 2007 and all I got was delays and 9xx chipset rebrands from the previous series.
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HyperTransport 3.1..?
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It was nearly 2 months ago that I invested in one of the new 990 series chipsets ready for Bulldozer, I nearly swapped back to Intel leaving them after the first 'Core' architecture release. God damn do I need a chip upgrade, and I ain't investing in an intermediate CPU. At this rate, Ivy Bridge will be released in quick succession to the Bulldozer FX-Series, and AMD will be well behind again.

So many people on this board seem to have already ditched AMD in the wait.
That sucks, I feel bad for people who bought 990 boards, considering they'll be obsolete next year, and replaced by FM2.

AMD dropped the ball on the whole backwards compatibility thing this time around.

They wouldn't "officially" support BD in AM3, and AM3+ will be EOL next year.

However, if BD delivers, then maybe you can get a couple years out of your CPU.
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That sucks, I feel bad for people who bought 990 boards, considering they'll be obsolete next year, and replaced by FM2.

AMD dropped the ball on the whole backwards compatibility thing this time around.

They wouldn't "officially" support BD in AM3, and AM3+ will be EOL next year.
Yeah I know what you mean, though for a lot of people invested in AM2 hardware it was an easy way to stagger the upgrade route. Coming from AM2 you're able to buy a board now and a processor later, which is good when you're short on cash, I also needed to upgrade to DDR3.

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However, if BD delivers, then maybe you can get a couple years out of your CPU.
After so many years they had to ditch the 'AM' architecture, it was just a matter of when. Either way, I'll be investing in either FM2 or IB early next year, and my current tech can go in the Media PC.
    
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