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That GTX 470 was certainly a useless piece of silicon. That sucks man, a GTX 470 usually does 750-760 core at stock volts at that speed it's equal to a stock GTX 570. You're better of selling that GPU and get something better, tough luck mate
I bought it used from OCN. I was thinking of RMAing it back to ASUS. The funny thing is i was told it did 850 core @ stock volts, so i traded my 5850 which did 925/1200 @ stock volts for it, and now not only does it not oc, i get driver crashes every so often just sitting at the desktop
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I bought it used from OCN. I was thinking of RMAing it back to ASUS. The funny thing is i was told it did 850 core @ stock volts, so i traded my 5850 which did 925/1200 @ stock volts for it, and now not only does it not oc, i get driver crashes every so often just sitting at the desktop
Who did you buy it from? That has to be a faulty GTX 470.
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I bought it used from OCN. I was thinking of RMAing it back to ASUS. The funny thing is i was told it did 850 core @ stock volts, so i traded my 5850 which did 925/1200 @ stock volts for it, and now not only does it not oc, i get driver crashes every so often just sitting at the desktop
Ugh... Sorry to hear that mate . If I were you I would contact the seller again (if you know him in person) to return the card to him or ask for refund, if he is a good person he will understand . Or at least try to sell that card and try to get something better . It is obvious your old 5850 is much better than this piece of junk . I feel sorry that you are cheated with this trash.
My card is not a good oc'er too but I got it for only ~$220 at the time of release so I can't complain much about it.
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Who did you buy it from? That has to be a faulty GTX 470.
Unfortunately. if it is stable at stock it is considered a flawless card. even if it is a bad clocker.
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Who did you buy it from? That has to be a faulty GTX 470.
I dont want my 5850 back, so there si no point in switching back. Even if the card is faulty its easier to just RMA it back to ASUS, i have also tried several different BIOS and they all have the same results. So im going to take out the card and get my serial number so i can get an RMA started.

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Unfortunately. if it is stable at stock it is considered a flawless card. even if it is a bad clocker.
Its not stable at stock, i get random driver crashes on the desktop with 2 different drivers.
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Unfortunately. if it is stable at stock it is considered a flawless card. even if it is a bad clocker.
The driver crashes are though.

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I dont want my 5850 back, so there si no point in switching back. Even if the card is faulty its easier to just RMA it back to ASUS, i have also tried several different BIOS and they all have the same results. So im going to take out the card and get my serial number so i can get an RMA started.



Its not stable at stock, i get random driver crashes on the desktop with 2 different drivers.
That should fix it for you I hope.
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If you can get a deal on a GF-100 go for it.
If you want GTX 580 performance and the ability to rape 1080P get a 570 and OC it.
A 570 on one one destroys a 470.
A 470 needs hefty amounts of overclocking and overvolting just to keep pace with a stock 570.

If not on water and not in a good case, GF-100's can be quite loud & hot.
If that baggage doesn't bother you, they are good in the performance category.
Lets not get carried away here.

570s @ 845 core are about on par with 470s at 900 core.




470s:




If it the OP was talking about air cooling there would be more worth in the 570, however as soon as water cooling is mentioned all the "problems" of GF100 melt away, or should I say freeze up?

Neither card is a bad choice, however don't downplay 470s as bad, power hungry, loud, hot, slow, or anything negative in a thread where the OP is talking about water cooling it.
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Lets not get carried away here.
570s @ 845 core are about on par with 470s at 900 core.
This doesn't address anything I said.
The overclock headroom is fantastic on a 570 and a new phase design GF-110 on water will rick roll any GF-100, so lets not start a GF-110 vs GF-100 war, we all know its a big advantage to the GF-110's.
The 470 is a great option for saving money but going water changes everything.
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This doesn't address anything I said.
The overclock headroom is fantastic on a 570 and a new phase design GF-110 on water will rick roll any GF-100, so lets not start a GF-110 vs GF-100 war, we all know its a big advantage to the GF-110's.
The 470 is a great option for saving money but going water changes everything.
It does. A heavily OC'ed GTX 470 beats an average OC'ed GTX 570, not a stock one as you implied. However there's no question about it that the GTX 570 is the superior chip here. The difference isn't as large as you claim it is though.
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Originally Posted by amstech View Post
This doesn't address anything I said.
The overclock headroom is fantastic on a 570 and a new phase design GF-110 on water will rick roll any GF-100, so lets not start a GF-110 vs GF-100 war, we all know its a big advantage to the GF-110's.
The 470 is a great option for saving money but going water changes everything.
Overclock headroom on 570: from 732 stock to about 950 on water (30%)
Overclock headroom on 470: from 607 stock to about 900 on water (48%)
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