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My 965 BE isn't really the best for gaming, and the architecture is getting a little outdated, so I want to upgrade when BD comes out.

All I really do on my PC is play games. Every once in a while I open up Windows Movie Maker and edit some 1080p video, but I don't really care if it takes a couple minutes longer to import the videos.

The main purpose will be for gaming, and I plan on keeping it for at least 2-3 years. If I am not mistaken, barely any games even utilize 4 cores these days.

Which Bulldozer CPU would be best for me? Of course, if BD doesn't compare to the i5-2500k, I will pick that up instead.
post #2 of 25
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Originally Posted by xd_1771;14670997 
How AMD's "Bulldozer" architecture works
Thing about BD is that doesn't really matter... the FX 8 core processor can still be a logical choice on existing games.
It relates to the architecture. With the module-based approach, you can fit more integer cores in lower die space. Note that this results in slight loss of performance due to shared resources; when two integer cores in one module are being used, they would perform 80% as well as two regular integer cores in non module-based design. However, when one of the two integer cores is used, that one integer core has access to all the resources, resulting in higher performance. AMD ensures that processes will not take advantage of the other integer core in a module unless necessary, resulting in maximum performance. IN ADDITION, Turbo Core 2.0 will raise the clock speed when less cores are used, providing a performance boost for such less multithreaded apps. I don't see why the 8-core FX series processor is an illogical choice even for gamers. In games that utilise 4 threads (which are starting to become more common) there should be good performance - better than the 2 module/4 integer core version of the FX - while programs threaded for 8 threads still receive the benefit of an additional integer core and higher performance. This "chip multi-threading" concept is basically a more efficient version of Intel's HyperThreading. Each integer core in a module adds only 5% die space, so it is very efficient in terms of die space resulting in better performance for less expensive production and less power consumption. This, I believe, is a very smart processor design concept. It sort of ensures that gamers will still buy the 8 core for more performance.... once they come to understand the architecture and how it works.

^^^ Okay, that was a mouthful.... I think I should place a link to this post in my sig and label it "how BD works" tongue.gif

That ought to explain. Though this thread will probably be moved to that BD thread.
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Quad core will probably do just fine. However its anyone's guess until performance charts come out. Most games are still only able to run on only 4 threads or less. If you want to future proof than 6 or 8 core would be a good bet.
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Quad core will probably do just fine. However its anyone's guess until performance charts come out. Most games are still only able to run on only 4 threads or less. If you want to future proof than 6 or 8 core would be a good bet.

CPU tech moves so fast there is no point in getting more cores for "future proofing" since by the time the future arrives there will be a new generation of cpus out with higher per core performance.
    
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You could go 8core, OC a bit, and game on 4 cores while you fold on the 4 other! Just an idea though.
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CPU tech moves so fast there is no point in getting more cores for "future proofing" since by the time the future arrives there will be a new generation of cpus out with higher per core performance.

That's true with the first gen phenoms. Dual cores today will beat a phenom 9850.

@ComradeNF
just get a 4core or 6core bulldozer for gaming. the extra 2 cores of the 6core might come in handy when you run other tasks while doing heavy gaming
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post #7 of 25
Go big or go home!

Seriously though, wait till benchmarks if you are not in a hurry and then decide. I would think the 4 core or 6 core would be sufficient for most games to perform well, but if you want to future-proof yourself a bit longer, the 8 core is a good idea.
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I will probably go with the cheapest 4 core and overclock. With FM2 socket 3 to 6 months away, don't want to spend to much on am3+
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The people mainly use it for benchmarking but during real time gaming, it makes no differences. Just overclock your CPU.
     
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post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by XanderDylan;14676986 
You could go 8core, OC a bit, and game on 4 cores while you fold on the 4 other! Just an idea though.

People would actually do that? lachen.gif
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