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hes right in that they are all basicly the same the only shooter i like playing at the moment is world off tanks ive stoped playing mw2 bfbc2 i havent bought black ops or any more recent titles we could do with some stealth typ shooters more i got sniper ghost warrior i only played it once it was way too easy i have started playing the stalker games again but with mods ie oblivion lost,total faction wars and 2009 complete they were good in fact i was thinking it wold be good if they made a stalker multiplayer similare to total factions wars
    
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Wow...looks like another first person shooter...where I aim with the right mouse button and fire with the left mouse button again. I can't get excited about these kinds of fps shooters any more. Crysis at least is a bit intriguing with cloak mode, max armor, and different interesting elements. But these military type shooters seem like more of the same to me. Now I liked bc2 and cod4. Mw2 wasn't that bad. But MW3 and BF3?

These new shooters...what's to stop me believing that it's just the same old rehashed stuff over and over. And what's amazing is people keep buying them because it has a some pretty new wrapping on it...maybe new killstreaks, new weapons, better graphics, etc. I mean there isn't much more you can do with these military type fps shooters it would seem.
simple, dont buy it. But moaning and groaning about this type of thing just makes you look like a troll. Dont buy, you win.
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"Rehashed" is a subjective term. That's YOUR opinion. And guess what, as "rehashed" as Battlefield 3's MILITARY SHOOTER formula is, it works, and it's going to represent ITS SPECIFIC GENRE for this generation of DX11 MILITARY shooters.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about; you can't single out a SPECIFIC FPS genre and then blab about how the formula is "rehashed." Seriously, that's like saying that Madden NFL 2011 is a rehashed game year in and year out! NO DUH, IT'S A SPECIFIC FRIGGIN' SPORT! You want a game about a new sport? GO OUT AND MAKE ONE THEN.

If you want a different type of shooter, make a thread about your desire for an FPS that's not MILITARY based. Otherwise, what do you expect from MILITARY shooters? Asking a developer to come up with a NEW GENRE of shooters is FAR AND AWAY different from complaining that they're not making a military shooter a farm simulator.

And also, the sense of entitlement comments were directed at your posts where you complain about being "forced" to buy DLC, or that DLC should ALWAYS be free, cause that's the way *SOME* DLC had been in the past (not ALL, which is what you ASSUMED, and you didn't know what you were talking about with regards to free DLC in the past either).

Yeah, the shooter genre can use some innovation, but at the end of the day, it's going to be a new genre. And If the OP is complaining enough about the lack of innovation in FPS games, he obviously hasn't been playing enough FPS games - there's literally one that takes place in every imaginable place with countless different settings and storylines. It just sounds to me that all the hype about MILITARY shooters compelled him to make an ignorant post about wanting a new style of FPS game but pointed the finger at military shooters for sticking true to their INTENDED gameplay design.
I'm not saying the formula is rehashed, I'm saying the game is rehashed. You can only make so many Harry Potter movies before it dies out. It's the same thing with Acivision/IW/treyarch with COD and EA with battlefield and bad company. And it's like they've done all they could. Now it's just a lame rehash of a game every time that everyone has played before.
    
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Its called capitalism bro, do you expect them to NOT put out products? I mean what innovations would you like to see? I mean think about it, you are right there isnt much to do innovation wise in my opinion when when consider fps, when all all the bells and whistles are stripped away its all almost the same thing.

And a simple reason for putting out these "rehashed" games is hardware changes monthly, computers get faster, new consoles come out etc, i mean you cant tell me you wanna go back to play the first medal of honor or something of that nature simply becuase you are jaded with how the big companies are handling things?

This trend will not really change much, its how corporations function, plain and simple.
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Its called capitalism bro, do you expect them to NOT put out products? I mean what innovations would you like to see? I mean think about it, you are right there isnt much to do innovation wise in my opinion when when consider fps, when all all the bells and whistles are stripped away its all almost the same thing.

And a simple reason for putting out these "rehashed" games is hardware changes monthly, computers get faster, new consoles come out etc, i mean you cant tell me you wanna go back to play the first medal of honor or something of that nature simply becuase you are jaded with how the big companies are handling things?

This trend will not really change much, its how corporations function, plain and simple.
The hardware is part of the problem actually. We aren't seeing anything innovative even in the graphics department seeing the big name military fps shooters are console ports. I think Black ops used a modified quake 3 engine.
    
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If i'm not mistaken, Call of duty has been riding that quake engine since Cod 2, they further labeled it their own and continually modified it and it hasn't changed. There truly isn't much to innovate a FPS IMO. BF3 is graphically pretty amazing. Military shooters don't really change all that much though unless you go future warrior type with GR or Crysis etc.
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Can you stop making the same thread every month?

Battlefield has evolved from a Early DX9 Engine to a Full blown DX11 one in BF3, lots of development from DICE and Frostbite..

Call Of Duty. Use a Quake 3 Engine and reskin 9 games of it and sell it to console kiddies for $110AUD+DLC+XLive.
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I'm not saying the formula is rehashed, I'm saying the game is rehashed. You can only make so many Harry Potter movies before it dies out. It's the same thing with Acivision/IW/treyarch with COD and EA with battlefield and bad company. And it's like they've done all they could. Now it's just a lame rehash of a game every time that everyone has played before.
Actually... you could just write something else based on Harry Potter... and it will seem fresh and new again. It's worked for the last few thousand years with archetypes. i.e. Star Wars was just a medieval fantasy story in space.

So what's your point? If something is not completely new and original.... then what? Virtually everything is not completely new or original, but we all still enjoy them.
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OP should play Arma 2 since its free now.
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Wow...looks like another first person shooter...where I aim with the right mouse button and fire with the left mouse button again. I can't get excited about these kinds of fps shooters any more. Crysis at least is a bit intriguing with cloak mode, max armor, and different interesting elements. But these military type shooters seem like more of the same to me. Now I liked bc2 and cod4. Mw2 wasn't that bad. But MW3 and BF3?

These new shooters...what's to stop me believing that it's just the same old rehashed stuff over and over. And what's amazing is people keep buying them because it has a some pretty new wrapping on it...maybe new killstreaks, new weapons, better graphics, etc. I mean there isn't much more you can do with these military type fps shooters it would seem.
Dude i keep saying the exact same thing. But when i say that BF3 is BF2 with better graphics, much like CoD is, i get flamed by the elitists who are prejudiced against CoD because its not BF3. I have BFBC2 and i dont like it at all, now that i have all the guns i stopped playing because there is no variety, at least with CoD we get mods and its mor fun because you can just go out and get some kills.
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