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  • 35% (5)
    AMD X3 unlocked to X4 and OC to 3.5Ghz
  • 64% (9)
    Intel Q6600 OC to 3.5Ghz
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post #1 of 17
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I was wondering which has an advantage?
My current sig or:
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Q6600 (oc to the same 3.5 Ghz)
Sig RAM
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Basically I have to decide between the processors, everything else stays the same.
So which is better? Q6600 or the unlocked 450? (both at 3.5Ghz)
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post #2 of 17
markothevrba,

It's a really tough call because this is basically uncharted territory. Not very often do people get to successfully unlock the 4th core on the 450 and then see if migrating to a Q6600 is better, but let's see...

Well, since the X3 runs at 3.2GHz stock, you gained a 300MHz overclock, which is a 9.36% increase in performance. Once you add the extra core the math becomes a bit tricky (for me).

If you were able to obtain a Q6600 running at 2.4GHz stock and overclocked that to 3.5GHz, that's a 1100MHz increase which means a 31.43% increase in performance.

While going with the Q6600 will net you a better overall feeling from the overclock results, I feel that the performance difference will be pretty close. I think the L2 cache on the Q6600 is higher but I'm not sure how that will play out.

Maybe if you try performing some benchmarks and then comparing them to a person using a Q6600 at 3.5GHz, it'll give you a better idea of who has an advantage.

Good luck!
Edited by Gearbox - 8/22/11 at 5:12pm
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post #3 of 17
If it doesn't cost you anything, get the Q6600 set-up as it's simply more powerful than your 450 it can be overclocked even higher with the right cooling. Otherwise, I'd stick with your current set-up.
Edited by Code Geass - 8/22/11 at 5:16pm
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post #5 of 17
AM3 CPUs (Athlon II and Phenom II) and LGA775 2nd generation (E8400, Q6600) are approximately equal in terms of performance at a given clockspeed. There are definitely programs that favour Intel, but there are also programs that favour AMD. I would actually suggest getting rid of your unlocked core, seeing what your maximum overclock is on just 3 cores and also overclocking your northbridge.

You won't see a big enough change to warrant switching, *UNLESS* you play WoW, which will see a big improvement from an Intel processor.
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post #6 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindrage606 View Post
I looked at that prior to replying to the first post, but I don't think it serves any purpose with the situation:

1. The X3 450 benchmark, at minimum, doesn't take in the performance increase of the 4th core
2. The Q6600 is missing a 1100MHz increase; Doesn't really matter what processor it is but a 1100MHz OC is bound to skew some tests
3. Even the X3 is shown excelling in some tests which make it difficult to say the Q6600 dominates the other
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post #7 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindrage606 View Post
All the SYSMark benches are higher. Every other benchmark is favoring the Athlon or approximately equal. There really isn't enough of a difference to warrant ripping apart your computer.

Edit: though I suppose we should have asked what you use your computer for. I assumed gaming, because you have a GTX 560Ti in your computer, which is usually a gaming card. If you're a gamer, the difference between the two will be minimal, but favour the Q6600 (assuming you actually can overclock it that high).
Edited by KittensMewMew - 8/22/11 at 5:29pm
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post #8 of 17
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Yeah I mainly use computer for surfing and gaming, I don't do any video encoding or anything...

How about if I lock the fourth core and OC the processor to 3.7Ghz- had it there stable already, but I unlocked 4th core and it was unstable at 3.7, so I didn't bother increasing volts partially because the temperature sensors don't display correctly when the 4th core is unlocked so I am not 100% sure my processor is cool at higher volts. So i just went with 3.5ghz

I mainly want to know if at the same speeds Intel beats AMD. I read somewhere that AMD needs higher clocks to put out the same performance as Intel, so I was wondering if switching to Intel would yield better results in games (and I would have correct temperatures so I wouldn't be worried anymore)
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Oh and I almost forgot to mention why I starter thinking about swapping in the first place The problem is that my PC was causing some issues, like failing to boot and similar stuff. It could be the OS but I read somewhere it could be the core unlocking.
And also I heard that Intel likes Nvidia cards more and AMD processors go better together with ATI cards?
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post #10 of 17
No, your AMD set-up at 3.7GHz still won't beat the Q6600 at 3.5GHz. The 200MHz is not enough to overtake the Q6600 however it's performance is not miles away but still can be said as a considerable upgrade.

In my opinion, the Q6600 is the most future proof CPU that Intel has made. It's bulletproof still.

Try using SpeedFan, CoreTemp, RealTemp, HWMonitor to check your CPU temps.
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