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As you can probably tell, I am new to overclocking. Before I begin I figured I should get my temps down a bit. Right now (just being on the internet with a few tabs open) my CPU is around 46 degrees C and I figured it should be a little lower to start with (right?). A friend suggested just adding more fans; my case already has a 200mm in the front and on top, and a 120mm in the back, should I add some more fans to the side? Will that really make a difference? Also I'm using a stock cpu cooler (whatever comes with the phenom IIx4 945, I know I should upgrade it) and I have no idea what to look at for a better cooler. I have even considered trying liquid cooling (it sounds fun). Suggestions for a noob?
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Simply adding fans wont solve the problem, you have to lay them out so that they maximize the airflow in your case. Ideally you want to match intake to exhaust so you have a neutral pressure in your case. Cable Management is the next thing to do, as well as maybe buying a fan controller to adjust fan speeds for those much needed areas. If you are looking for a good cpu cooler the Coolermaster hyper tx3 is what I use its 19.99 plus shipping and works like a champ, after some adjustments I made today my cpu temp while encoding video is anywhere from 30c to 37c
Edited by ishimura2446 - 8/22/11 at 8:57pm
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Also good choice of Processor the Denebs are awesome
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your case fans should be fine. the only thing you can really do is replace them with higher 120mm cfm fans, but i dont think you need to. just get yourself a nice budget cooler that will allow you to overclock alittle bit. something like a coolermaster 212+. it will bring your temps down and give you some head room to overclock alittle. and get yourself some good thermal paste for the cpu.

as for water cooling, you might want to look into a corsair h series water cooler. there pretty easy to work with.
Edited by toyz72 - 8/22/11 at 8:57pm
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Simply adding fans wont solve the problem, you have to lay them out so that they maximize the airflow in your case. Ideally you want to match intake to exhaust so you have a neutral pressure in your case. Cable Management is the next thing to do, as well as maybe buying a fan controller to adjust fan speeds for those much needed areas. If you are looking for a good cpu cooler the Coolermaster hypter tx3 is what I use its 19.99 plus shipping and works like a champ, after some adjustments I made today my cpu temp while encoding video is anywhere from 30c to 37c
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To the OP it depends on what budget you have to work with. Your temps are high, as your chip can only take 60c/140f. First place to start is CPU cooler. Stay way from water, unless your taking about going full blow water loop, witch has a hefty price tag on it.
I would look at the CoolerMaster Hyper 212+. its cheap and is the best bang for buck cooler out there. its a great start for a beginer to OC. If you have more money to toss at cooling, the big mac daddy of Air Cooling is a tie between the Silver Arrow, and the D-14. Next step will be TIM, or thermal paste. There are many great brands and the stuff realy works! I like to use ICDiamond7, out of all the TIM's i have used it seems to work the best. after you select a TIM. make sure you apply it right!~ DO NOT SPREAD IT, you have been warned! A small dot dead center of the CPU chip is more than enough, then seat your cooler. Stay away from thermal pads, those are a gimick. and as stated in the post above me cable managment is key. Its a pain to do but really helps out.For out to set up your fans, this depends on a few things, how your GPU cooler is set up, what CPU cooler you select. your ambiant temps, if you have a dust problem or not. stuff like that.Positive pressure will eliminate dust in your system, negitive pressure will turn your PC into a baggless vaccume cleaner. In my experiance trying to have an even amount of intake and exhaust is hard to do, youll end up losing out on intake to match your exhaust, you only have two fans for exhast and will have mutiple fans for intake, meaning you will have to remove or under volt the snot out of your intake to match your exhaust.can you give us some more details about your PC. A pic of your PC with the side pannel removed would be great for us to help you out! best of luck!
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I saw that this was youre first build. Grats nice work.
Before you start with airflow and that stuff are you sure you did a good job with the thermal paste? Most of the time starters adding to much paste so its leaking on the motherboard or too less? Check this good.
I have a x3 720 cores are 21 C OC't,
your processor would be running a little higher but around 30idle is nice to want to have. For the airflow you can look at google look for coolermaster cases and you see the airflow explained in a nice drawing.
Good luck tip 2 don't listen to friends that havent build alot of cases it can confuse you.
So 3 assignments for you Thermal paste first , then airflow , if it still is high buy another processor cooler.
If your GPU is way cooler then you can go a 100% for thermal paste .
Good luck may the force be with you.

P.S sorry for my faulty english im from the netherlands
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KhaoticKomputing to answer the ??????'s I was saying that adding fans willy-nilly won't change a thing unless you have them planned out, you wouldn't place an exhaust fan right next to an intake fan or anything else like that, And if he has a stock HAF he shouldn't need to change a thing. I was trying to spare OP the frustration of buying more fans than he knew what to do with. No offense OP. Also, matching exhaust to intake isn't that hard I use dry ice vapour, or smoke to help map out the airflow in my pc, and my case is a good balance, not perfect of course but better than others I have seen.
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I saw that this was youre first build. Grats nice work.
Before you start with airflow and that stuff are you sure you did a good job with the thermal paste? Most of the time starters adding to much paste so its leaking on the motherboard or too less? Check this good.
I have a x3 720 cores are 21 C OC't,
your processor would be running a little higher but around 30idle is nice to want to have. For the airflow you can look at google look for coolermaster cases and you see the airflow explained in a nice drawing.
Good luck tip 2 don't listen to friends that havent build alot of cases it can confuse you.
So 3 assignments for you Thermal paste first , then airflow , if it still is high buy another processor cooler.
If your GPU is way cooler then you can go a 100% for thermal paste .
Good luck may the force be with you.

P.S sorry for my faulty english im from the netherlands
The stock AMD cooler that came with his CPU has a TIM pad already attached to the cooler, and yes it use's way to much TIM. Besids that the stock coolers suck on AMD's.
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Ok so I'm definately going to get a new cpu cooler. I thought my cables were pretty good already (but who knows) and I tried to tie, hide, and bundle them when I built. Here are some pics of my system: http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/...2/IMAG0153.jpg and: http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/...2/IMAG0154.jpg
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Also good choice of Processor the Denebs are awesome
Ya denebs rock.

Get a CM 212+ from NE, its 28$ shipped and one of the best coolers on a budget.
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