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Okay, so currently I run 2xWD Caviar Green 1tb drives in Raid 0 as my Storage Array. I recently purchased 4 Western Digital Caviar Black 2tb drives as an upgrade due to my current storage situation being full. My current raid solution has on die processing for raid 0, 1.
If I were to purchase a decent hardware raid controller, what will the write performance be like with raid 5? I like the idea of not having to worry about if one of the drives fails, and being able to just slap in a replacement drive and have the parity automatically distribute itself, as well as that I only lose 1 hard drive worth of space to parity. What I'm worried about is if I will have enough write throughput to record raw uncompressed video (fraps) of 1920x1200/5760x1200 resolution. Will read performance suffer any? And if so how much?

Also, are there any suggestions on what raid controller to use with that array? Would a PERC/5i be sufficient?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816103224
perhaps this controller? or its little brother:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816103096
( i can get the 256mb one for much less than newegg has it for)
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Here's a review of a few RAID5 solutions. Looking at those throughput results it looks like with 5 drives they are certainly fast enough for what you need them. They don't have PERC/5i test results in this review, but seing how popular it's on OCN it must at least as good as the others. The rule of the thumb is with a decent RAID controller the performance for X drives in RAID5 is similar or slightly inferior to X-1 disks in RAID0.
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hi

If your using GB ethernet, why not invest in a NAS device?
A great little 5 bay device is the Synology DS1511+

http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS1511%2B&lang=enu#p_submenu

I have one on order, not sure of what, how many or volume of HDDs for it yet. but my plan is for a centralized backup device for my PCs and notebook. Will still keep my PC internal RAID 1 array for a localisezed data protection. The NAS device will be configured as a RAID 5 array and a backup of the backup.

ok, so for your question, by installing all your new HDDs in a NAS device would be the way to go and answers all your needs but as for your uncomppresed video you would have to check the specs to see as im not too sure about that. Scrap this if you are or going to use a NAS device wink.gif
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We all want the best performace out of our PCs, even though there are many network engineers prefer NAS devices for RAID instead of RAID in a PC. As OCers, yay or nah

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Perc 5/i or 6/i should be fast enough. I've seen them on eBay for as little as $60. (+$ for the BBU)

These are storage drives, correct? You shouldn't have any problem recording FRAPS footage to them. RAID-5 gets a bad rap for write speeds because the entire array has to work together. But a good RAID card can cache data, so minor performance differences between drives don't drag the array to a crawl.
     
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2xWD Caviar Green 1tb drives

That, my friend, is a problem. Hardware RAID controllers don't like it when the WD Green drives park their heads. The Green drives also don't support CCTL/TLER (error-recovery system). Unless they were specifically RE (RAID edition) you're going to want to buy new drives for hardware RAID5.

I learned this over at [H]ardOCP when I was building an array for a PERC5/i myself.
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I really hate hijacking, but so many threads already exist.




I have the ICH10R controller installed on my board. I have 4x WD 80GB HDD's. I want to make either a RAID 0 (2x HDD's) solution, or a RAID 5 (3x HDD's) solution for OS and games. I have a 320GB and a 500GB HDD (both Seagate 7200.11) for data storage. Currently using the 320GB as my OS drive. On top of that, I have my ODD. I only have 6x SATA slots and need the 2 larger HDD's and ODD.

With my initial reading, RAID 5 requires a higher level of logic overheard as opposed to RAID 0 to function at full speed. I'm really confused.

I'm not really worried about data storage on the main drive (RAID), but would prefer the ability to rebuild that's available with RAID 5.
    
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My rule of thumb is never use your onboard controller for advance RAID setups (RAID-5/RAID-6/etc). Reason being that you'll experience some bottleneck in write speeds from what I remember researching. I honestly can't tell you specifically since I've never gone beyond RAID-0/RAID-1 with my motherboards. As you mentioned...RAID-5 requires a higher workload (parity calculations) which is why a dedicated controller is recommended with those setups. If you can increase your budget (to setup four drives)...while trying to maintain some kind of redundancy...you can setup a RAID-10 or RAID-0+1 depending on what you feel may work better for you since those don't use parity calculations. You can check here for a little read on the difference between those RAID levels.
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For some reason, I don't think I did this right. The far left is my RAID array in 0, and the other 2 are my single drives. Interestingly, the 320 was my old OS drive, which I'm in the process of cleaning up (minus OS, should I need it again).

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Did you mean the far right is the RAID-0 array? I'm guessing you have setup two of the 80GB drives in RAID-0. To double check for some additional results...have you tested those 80GB drives individually?
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Did you mean the far right is the RAID-0 array? I'm guessing you have setup two of the 80GB drives in RAID-0. To double check for some additional results...have you tested those 80GB drives individually?

Yes, wow. I don't know how I messed that up.

I have not tested the 80GB drives individually. They are WD Caviar SE 800JD's.
    
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2.8TB Total LG Super DVD Burner SATA VII Enterprise x64 Gateway FHD2401 
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Corsair VX550W NZXT Source 210 White Logitech G400 Razer Kabuto 
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