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I am merging content provided by bbaseballboy1234 into this thread. Thank you bbaseballboy1234.

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FAQ:
(Note: these are FAQ I wrote). The FAQ provided by bbaseballboy1234 follow this section.
1. What is the HP Touchpad? The touchpad is tablet or slate type computing device similiar to an Ipad or Android tablet. The device runs WebOS which is based on a Linux kernel and was acquired by HP when it bought up Palm’s assets. It can be found on various phones and the TP.
2. Why is the touchpad so popular suddenly? HP had a fire sale, slashing prices of the touchpad down to $99.99 and 149.99 for the 16 and 32GB versions.
3. Why did HP cut prices so drastically? The device was not selling. Reportedly Best Buy had 250,000 of the devices and sold only a very small fraction. Also HP has decided to get out of the tablet business and consumer grade computers.
4. Where can I get a touchpad? Nowhere at the moment. Everyone is sold out. HP may get some more in a few weeks based on a conversation I had with HP SMB.
5. What are the device specs?
  • OS:HP webOS 3.0
  • HP TouchPad weighs approximately 1.6 lb/740 grams
  • 9.7-inch diagonal multi-touch screen with vibrant 18-bit color
  • Virtual keyboard
  • Flexible wireless connectivity options:
  • Wi-Fi: Integrated 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless LAN
  • Bluetooth™ 2.1+ EDR with A2DP stereo Bluetooth support
  • Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-CPU APQ8060
  • 16 GB or 32 GB internal storage2
  • Integrated front-facing 1.3 MP webcam
  • HP Touchstone Charging Dock, HP TouchPad Wireless Keyboard, and HP TouchPad case are optional accessories (sold separately) Complete specs here.
6. I heard there was a 64GB version. Is this true? Yes there is a 64 GB version. You can see photos here.
7. Can I run Android on a Touchpad? Possibly. A number of folks are working on getting Android to run on the Touchpad. There appear to be 3 separate efforts underway to get Android onto the TP. These are Touchdroid, an effort by HackNMod, and AndroTouch which was seems to have split from Touchdroid. XDA has teamed with HackNMod to increase the cash prize for getting Android to run on the Touchpad.
Efforts to port Android 8. When will Android be available to run on a touchpad? My crystal ball is broken.
9. Can I view flash based movies on the touchpad? Yes, flash and HTML 5 are supported on the Touchpad.
10. Can I use the Touchpad to view programming on Hulu? No, not anymore at least out of the box. After the fire sale, Hulu decided to block Touchpads. However there is a fix.
11. Is there a word processing program similiar to available for the Touchpad? The only true word processing program I have found is Google Docs. However this requires a WiFi connection. Other options include note programs such Memos which comes with the TP, Tapnote (paid), Typewriter Beta and Tapnote Lite which is free. Edit: An update is now available via the App Catalog for Quick Office that adds basic MS Word compatible word processing and Excel compatible spreadsheets.

HP Touchpad FAQ: Source
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Where can I buy one?

Nearly everyone is sold out. Best Buy may have some in some remote cities but it’s unlikely.
HP.com appears to be the last option. 8/26/2011 – MarkAtHP and BrynaAtHP ( https://twitter.com/#!/BrynaAtHP/ ) confirmed that there will be no word on stock of TPs today or over the labor day weekend so just go out and enjoy the weekend. https://twitter.com/#!/BrynaAtHP/sta...65812061769728
They are taking emails for notifications here: http://t.co/7xZjvem


Should I get the 16 or 32 gb model?

The two models are identical with the exception of the memory. If this was any other tablet, the amount of memory for apps is a consideration but with this discontinued product, the number of apps is finite and not likely to grow very quickly if at all. Aside from apps, more memory gives you more room to store music and movies. These are important consideration if you travel a lot and will be away from internet connections. If you often have internet connections, the Touchpad comes with a free lifetime 50 gb Box.net account

Arguments for getting a 32 gb model

It’s 50% / $50 off the original price which carried a $100 premium.
$50 is the lowest price right now to add 16 gb to a tablet.
There is no way to replace a 16 gb with a 32 gb once it sells out.
Although there is greater demand for the 16 gb model now, the 32 gb model will probably hold more value in the long run.

Arguments against getting a 32 gb model

It’s 50% of the entire price of the 16 gb model. I can get two 16 gb for $50 more than the 32 gb model.
With cloud services becoming more prevalent, storage is not as critical.
16 gb is not crippled and is fully capable when managed properly.
A 32 gb model does not run any faster than a 16 gb model.
I rather spend the money of a wireless Touchstone charger/stand or a really nice case.

How much does it cost to make the Touchpad?

It’s estimated to cost about $328 (32 gb) for parts and labor alone.

How does the Touchpad compare to the iPad?

The Touchpad is a high end tablet designed to compete against the iPad and other premium tablets. In some ways, the hardware is superior to the iPad 1 and inferior in other ways. For example, the wireless induction charging system is the most advanced on the market right now and no one, include Apple, has it. The Touchpad is not as thin as the iPad and uses a plastic shell. It uses a dual core cpu compared to the iPad 1’s single core cpu. It also has a front facing camera but not a rear facing camera. It’s kind of a blend between the iPad 1 and iPad 2.

What is the warranty?

HP will honor the one year hardware warranty. There are no returns to sellers since it’s a close out item. Dead on arrival units will have to be claimed through HP.

What is the future of WebOS?

Nobody knows for sure. HP stated they are committed to WebOS for other devices. Read more here and here.

Will WebOS be updated?

Yes, Stephen DeWitt, who heads up the HP division responsible for webOS says updates for the Veer and the TouchPad will continue, but it’s unclear when that would change.

Will the Touchpad run Android?

Not as of now. Any Touchpad you see running Android is experimental at best and why would you want to unless you just want to tinker for the fun of it at the risk of bricking your tablet.

What’s the first thing I should do after receiving the Touchpad?

Take a picture and post it on Facebook to gloat. 2nd thing you should do is update WebOS. There is no immediate urgency to doing this and waiting may be prudent since HP’s servers are hammered right now. You’ll need the email and password you used to setup the Touchpad then go to this site. Do not do anything on the Touchpad while it is updating.

Can I overclock the Touchpad which runs at 1.2 GHz?

Yes but at the risk of destroying your tablet from overheating.

Can I speed up the Touchpad without risk?

Yes. Open the Phone and Video Calls app in the Apps tab on the launcher screen. Once in the app select the DialPad tab (sign up for a Skype account if you don’t have one. Once you are in, the dialpad will show up) and enter the following in the dialer like you would on a phone:
##LOGS# (##5647#)
Hit the green Dial button.
On the subsequent Collect Logs screen, select Change Logging Levels
Hit the Set Logging To Minimal and confirm

What about accessories? (check out the accessories section lower this posting)
All HP manufactured accessories are also being discontinued. The must have item seems to be the Touchstone wireless charger/stand. It’s unlikely a third party will manufacture this item at the same price/quality so buy it now if you can find it around $40. As for other accessories, there will be plenty to choose from. The Touchpad is about the same size as the iPad 1 some it will fit in some iPad one cases. The HP wireless keyboard is nice but it’s simply a Bluetooth keyboard so any Bluetooth keyboard will work. If you own an iPad, one Bluetooth keyboard will work for all your Bluetooth enabled tablets.
Many places like Best Buy are offering HP branded accessories at 50% or more off.

Should I get a screen protector?
Only if you are one of those who wrap their sofas in plastic and have a bra for the hood of your car. It’s a tool, not a piece of jewelry. Besides, the screen is extremely hard and will not scratch unless you are using a rusty iron nail as a stylus.

What about apps?
There’s a few thousand and you can find them here. More here:
http://allwebosapps.com/
http://anotherguy.us/69/list-webos-apps-for-newbies/
http://www.precentral.net/round-tabl...-10-webos-apps
http://www.precentral.net/best-hp-to...apps-webos-3-0
http://www.apptvonline.com/blog/best...ps-hp-touchpad
http://www.bestappsblogger.com/2011/...-hp-touch-pad/

What if the battery dies? Can I replace it?

The battery is not user replaceable but there is no doubt there will be plenty of companies offering this service.

Is there a repair manual?

Yes there is.

Will the Touchpad play H.264 movies without re-encoding?

Yes. It is capable of playing 720 and 1080p H.264 video without skipping.

Does the Touchpad support flash?

Yes. Both flash and HTML5 is supported.

Will the Touchpad work with Netflix or Hulu?

No Netflix and Hulu.com has started blocking Touchpad access.

Will the Touchpad play protected DRM media like those purchased on iTunes?
No and it’s not suppose to.
Can the Touchpad do video conferencing?
Yes. Skype in included and works great.
Games?
Angry Birds HD is included.
What can I use this for?
Surf the web (no tab browsing).
Watch videos.
Email, calendar, weather updates.
Play music including Pandora.
Video calls with Skype.
Put it in your bedroom and use it as a really cool alarm clock. (Be sure to cover the camera just in case)
Stick it to your fridge and use it as a nag screen for your honey or recipes.
Mount it on a wall and use it as a picture viewer or a really, really small flat screen monitor.
Put it in the nursery and use it as a baby monitor.
Mount it to the headrest of your car and use it to entertain your passengers.
Can I do evil things with the Touchpad?
Yes. You can set it up to remotely monitor a room with the camera so you can use it to spy on your soon to be ex.


Official HP Touchpad Accessories provided by bbaseballboy1234 - good luck findings these as many places such as BB, Staples, Office Depot as sold out. If you do find any of these please let us know.
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Official HP Touchpad accessories:
HP Shopping Store ; HP.com official store has slashed 30% on their accessories.
  • Official Touchpad Wireless Keyboard $44.99
  • Official Touchstone Charging Dock $55.99
  • Official Touchpad Case $29.99

Office depot:

Don’t have office depot nearby? Go to local staples!

Just print out the web page from Office depot. They will accept it even though its a web page; http://www.overclock.net/tablet-computers/1097510-hp-touchpad-support-discussion-thread-2.html#post14691504

Staples:
Wal-mart:

buy.com

Cases at PreCentral


Links for patches and tweaks:
There is a lot information around the web about hacking, patching, and tweaking the Touchpad. Below are links that I have found and used for tweaking my own Touchpad.

WebOS Quick Install and Preware

Touchpad Get Started Guide

Specific patches to help improve perfromance

Touchplayer Wont Install Touchplayer does not install via Preware ATM. Edit: I have loaded Touchplayer. It works but has I think a fairly significant shortcoming - no way tpo pause the video. Also touching the screen during playback either reverses or advances video.

Overclock Touchpad to 1.9 GHz

Install Ubuntu on your Touchpad I have not tried this yet.

Tutorial for Overclocking your HP Touchpad and installing Linux thanks zerobahamut

Hulu Fix

Replace "Just Type" with Custom Message NEW

New TP App TBTransfer NEW

Specific Guides:

Update: There is a new process for adding the experimental feeds. They are now broken up into Alpha and Beta feeds. See http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds. Follow the instructions for the Beta feed as that has the F4 kernel. F4 kernel has been updated to run on the 3.0.4 update.

These are the steps in the order that I did them for tweaking my TP. Most information came from the above links.

Before doing the items I list below, I recommend first updating your TP to the latest version of WebOS 3.0.2. When I first received my TP I did a lot of the steps i mentioned below prior to updating to 3.0.2. I then did a reset via the Doctor which updated to 3.0.2 and thanks to the Cloud my TP was restored.

Downloading and Installing WebOS Doctor With WebOS Doctor, you restore your device so bricking is nearly impossible. It resets the device as if it were new right out of the box. Once reset just go back through the setup screens and then it will log into the cloud and re-download your settings and apps (as long as you have WiFi). You will need to log into your HP WebOS to get WebOS Doctor. Start here. Select Touchpad and Log in. Under Device Options you can DL WOSD. WOSD requires Java. Once WOSD has been downloaded, run it and follow the onscreen instructions which mainly involves clicking next. Takes about 15 min to reset a device.

Updating to 3.0.2 can be done via an OTA update or by resetting the device via the Doctor. For OTA go to Settings>System Updates. The TP will check for updates and then download/install the update. Or use WebOS Doctor to reset your device and the update will be applied. I have done the WebOS doctor method on two TPs without issue. The only items not restored from the Cloud were the Preware related stuff.

1.Developer’s Mode: Before installing Preware or any patches, you must put your TP into Developer’s Mode. On the home screen in the Search box, type webos20090606. Tap Developer mode icon and set it to On. DO NOT enter a password. Press Submit. Now your TP is in developer mode. You’re ready to install Preware, OC your TP and load patches to your heart’s content.

2.Turn Logging to minimum. I followed this guide at ZDNet to turn logging to minimum. You will need to create a new Skype account before getting access to the dial screen which is not explicitly mentioned in the article at ZDNet. Also I recommend clearing Log information first by pressing Clear Logs.

3.Install Preware. Download Web OS Quick Install (abbreviated WOSQI). WOSQI requires Java on your desktop and that your TP be in Developer Mode. Connect your TP via the USB cable. Your TP will now give you the option to mount as USB drive or Cancel. Either Cancel or leave the notification up. Run WOSQI. Novacom drives will install. These are needed to talk to the TP. Click the globe icon. Click Applications tab. With All in the drop down, search for Preware. Install Preware. Now you can load patches and overclock.

4. Here the patches I installed in order:
  • EOM Overlord Monitoring
  • Make It So
  • Muffle System Logging,
  • Remove Dropped Packet Logging
  • Unset CFQ IO Scheduler
  • Unthrottle Download Manager
  • Quiet powerd Messages
  • Faster Card Animations HYPER Version
  • Increase Touch Sensitivity And Smoothness 10
  • Preader Native Alpha (ebook reader)
  • Govnah - need for OCing your TP
  • Uberkernel (I have since switched to F15C Eagle) - custom kernel for OCing
  • Internalz Pro (also installs FileMgr and Homebrew JS Framework which is needed for Touchplayer
  • Add launcher Tabs
  • Touchplayer: Touchplayer does not install over Preware. To install Touchplayer you will need to download the IPK file manually from here. Note you will need to register at Precentral to be able to DL the file. Also you must have Internalz Pro installed prior to installing Touchplayer. Connect you TP via the USB cable and either hit cancel or just ignore the Mount as USB drive box. Fire up WOSQI. Using the + icon browse to the IPK file and install. After installation a reboot is needed before the Touchplayer icon will show up. A reboot can be done by powering off and powering on or via the Linux Commandline in WOSQI, found under Tools. At the commandline type reboot after the # sign and hit Enter.

NEW Other useful patches: here are some other useful patches that I have installed.
Add download link option
Advanced reset options: gives options to restart the tp or luna
Add launcher tabs: adds a games and homebrew tabs to the tp
Hulu fix available now thru preware

5. OCing your TP: The TP Snapdragon processor can be pushed from the stock 1.2Ghz to 1.5, 1.7, 1.8 and higher. However stability is not guaranteed at higher speeds. To OC you will need a custom kernel. I started with Uberkernel and then moved to F15C Eagle. Please note if you brick your TP or otherwise screw it up, a trip to the Doctor is all that is needed.
  • Overclocking with Uberkernel: Requires Govnah to select clock speeds. Uberkernel is available in the public Preware feeds. Install Govnah first from Preware. In Preware select Available Packages>Kernel>Experimental>Uberkernel. Install Uberkernel. In Govnah, tap Profile>Advanced Settings> Cpu Frequency. You can now change clockspeed to 1.5. I have min set to 192 and max set to 1.836 but I am running F15C Eagle.
  • NEW Overclocking with F15C Eagle: The F15C Eagle Custom kernel is an experimental kernel that allows overclocking of the TP up to 1.8-1.9 Ghz. Since it is experimental, the WebOS internals group (or me for posting instructions) is not responisble should somethinghappen to you TP. However if you do brick you device, WebOS Doctor will most likely be able to restore it.
    Instructions If you have not installed ANY Custom Kernel: To install F15C Eagle (also applies to F4 Phantom), you will need to add the experimental feed. This assumes your TP is already in Developer mode and you have installed Preware as well the above patches first. If you want to install F15C (improved kernel) or any of the not yet public release software, you need to add the testing feeds to Preware as described here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds. Reboot the Touchpad. Without reboot Preware not retrieve the new kernels from the Testting Feeds. After Reboot, open Preware and go to Kernels>All. You should see 5 Kernels (F15C, F4, Warthog, Uber and Palm Recovery). Install F15C - a device reboot is needed. When it reboots you'll see a bunch command line text scroll by - dont panic this is there as a reminder its an experimental Kernel. Now you can OC with Govnah.

    If you have uberkernel and want to switch to F15C then follow the procedure below:
    1. Open Govnah, delete all profiles.
    2. Uninstall Govnah.
    3. Install Palm 3.0.2 stock kernel.
    4. Reboot.
    5. Install F15C.
    6. Reboot.
    7. Install Govnah.
    8. Configure profile for Govnah.


6. Video players for the Touchpad: There are two options for playing videos on the touchpad that I have found. The first option is the touchplayer above. The second is Kalemsoft's media player v0.3.3. When you download the IPK file you're downloading a demo version. The paid version runs 5.99. I did not realize that at first. Go here and download the IPK file. Install the IPK using WOSQI. This does not require a reboot like the Touchplayer. Kalemsoft media player does have pause, rewind, forward, and full screen mode. Kalemsoft's demo version has a week long demo period based on a post from Precentral. Whether I buy I dont know yet.

7. Apps installed: These are apps from App store that I have installed. All are free. I have not yet ventured into paid app territory.
  • Amazon Kindle Beta
  • LA Times Reader
  • GOP News
  • NPR Reader
  • USA Today
  • Khan Academy
  • Accuweather - tried 3 or 4 weather apps. This was the best by far.
  • Epicurious
  • Touchplayer
  • Outline Tracker Free
  • Tunein Radio - awesome internet radio app
  • Tapnote Lite
  • Fidelity Market Monitor
  • Box - 50 gigs of cloud storage

8. Applying themes to your touchpad: So you have a new new Touchpad and figure you should be able to do some sort of theming, right? Well here's how to apply themes to your Touchpad. So far I have only tried out the Batman Arkham Asylum theme which places Batman on the home screen and puts the yellow black batman symbol under some icons and changes the browser icon to look like the FF icon.

This assumes you have placed your TP in Developer mode and have installed Preware.
Instructions:
  1. Open Preware on your TP. In the upper left corner tap Preware and go to Manage Feeds
  2. In the list of Feeds find Prethemer. Turn it On. Click the Back arrow. Your TP will ask you to Update the package list. Let it update the available packages.
  3. Now you should see the number of available packages considerably higher. Somewhere over 2600. I see 2667 available packages. (While i was doing this i also added the feed for the F15C Eagle kernel so my number may be a little different than yours. Also since I was working with Eagle I had to reboot to my TP.)
  4. Go to Available Packages>Themes and find a theme you like. Install theme
  5. To change themes you have to Remove the existing theme and then Install the new one.

Looking at the themes and the screen shots for a lot of them, it appears most if not all were designed for WebOS phones. I have only tried the Batman AA so far but it installed w/o issue.

9. Adding Hotmail account to your Touchpad & Importing your Hotmail Contacts: Configure a new Hotmail account by going to Settings>Accounts. Tap Microsfot Exchange and enter the information. Sign In. On the following page you'll see Hotmail only works with Email. Tap Create Account and your TP should sync with Hotmail. Now the problem you'll encounter is that your hotmail contacts are not available using the Emaill App.

To get your Hotmail Contacts onto your TP, you'll need to Export hotmail contacts as a CSV file. Then log into your Gmail acct and import the CSV file. Do the export and import on your desktop.

Back on the touchpad set up a Gmail acct by going to Settings>Accounts. Tap Google and enter the information. Sign In. On the next page you'll see your Google acct says "USE ACCOUNT WITH" Contacts, Email, Calendar, Documents and Messaging. On this page you can Turn Off whichever features you want. I turned off Email since I dont use the Gmail acct much. Next Create account. Your TP will Sync and pull your contacts from Gmail. Now go into Contacts and you'll see all your Hotmail Contacts present.

10. Quick Office Update: The QO update is live on the App Catalog. The update adds crucial MS Word compatible word processing and MS Excel compatible spreadsheet capabilities. Update QO via Software Manager in the Settings tab.

UPDATED11. F4 Phantom Kernel: I have changed to the F4 Kernel, the latest experiemental kernel. Again this is an experiemental kernel so use at your own risk. To get the Phantom kernel, you will need to add the testing feed as described here. If you dont want to risk a trip to the Doctor, then it may be best to stick with Uberkernel. The Phantom makes both cores run full time. Other features here. Battery usage will likely be higher with the Phantom since both cores run full time especially if both run full time at 1.8 ghz. Recommended procedure for Phantom (Assuming you have Uberkernel or F15C Eagle and want to switch to Phantom):
  1. Open Govnah, delete all profiles.
  2. Uninstall Govnah.
  3. Install Palm 3.0.2 stock kernel.
  4. Reboot.
  5. Install F4 Kernel.
  6. Reboot.
  7. Install Govnah.
  8. Configure profile for Govnah.

If you are starting with a fresh Touchpad or have reset with the Doctor, then install the above patches including govnah and then install Phantom
Edited by lsudvm - 10/23/11 at 4:28am
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Thanks. I added a few more.
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Can you fix the hulu link? Says page not found for me.

I think this is the correct link http://forums.precentral.net/3100389-post4.html
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I fixed the link - links now to the whole thread. Iused ncinerate's method.
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The patches helped ALOT! Thanks!
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Question: I'd like to install a new version of Govnah; must I uninstall it and then install the new version or is there some kind of app updater in Preware? Also, do I have to uninstall uberkernal before I do anything with a new governor? I would just experiment, but I don't have a few hours to doctor the thing back to health should anything go wrong.

Also, anyone who would like to use the hulu fix but are wary of editing root code, wait a day or two and the official patch should be available in normal Preware feeds (currently in test feeds).
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Question: I'd like to install a new version of Govnah; must I uninstall it and then install the new version or is there some kind of app updater in Preware? Also, do I have to uninstall uberkernal before I do anything with a new governor? I would just experiment, but I don't have a few hours to doctor the thing back to health should anything go wrong.

Also, anyone who would like to use the hulu fix but are wary of editing root code, wait a day or two and the official patch should be available in normal Preware feeds (currently in test feeds).

my experience has been with uberkernel and eagle. I had removed to user before eagle would install - otherwise it gave an error and said to the log

as for taking it to the doctor, it only takes about 15 min to restore and then once you setup the tp including the hpwebos account, all the apps and settings get redownloaded OTA and your tp is back. However preware stuff does not get restore but it does not take long to do that.
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Is there any sort of free text editing software for the touchpad? I do a bit of writing, and ordered the wireless keyboard so I can write things down as they hit me... but all I can find is a memopad which appears to be sticky notes, more or less...

I should definitely look into OCing this thing to 1.5. Haven't even hooked it to my PC yet, lol
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