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post #11 of 22
I would wait! Right now is seriously the wrong time to build a PC AMD or Intel.

Motherboard-
Bulldozer is coming this year AKA AMD 8 core chips, we don't know how well that would do yet compared to Intel I7's. And the 2nd gen of Bulldozer will require a completely new motherboard different Socket to support its integrated GPU. AM3+ is going to be AMD's old sockets in a year from now. Just be sure that the motherboard can support the 1st bulldozer cpus

CPU-
If you want the AM3+ for the first Bulldozer then you can build now just dont waste your money on a cpu get a 955 C3 BE if you must. I just did a bios upadate on my MB its AM3 but now it supports Bulldozer

CPU Cooling-
I highly recommend the Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System well worth the money, I hate heatsinks!

Ram-
The Cas Latency is high but lower voltage is good and its 1600MHz. I don't know if people can tell apart slow ram from fast. I do like the 2x4GB sticks compared to mine thats what I want to do later with a new MB the ram heatsinks are tall though.
Edited by M5ilencer - 8/27/11 at 8:55pm
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
Well to start with there are tons of potentially better choices - incl. the aforementioned AM3+ socket motherboard, aftermarket cooling, and a better case for price.

NCIX.com is where I buy from and if you are local to Toronto or Vancouver, you can save shipping costs, which can be huge at Newegg.ca; they also ship nationwide though and are one of the largest online computer stores in Canada, along with a very wide inventory. Tigerdirect has some local pickup centres in S. Ontario but pretty much features higher prices a lot of the time, and no price match; sometimes they have variable/different inventory though. MemoryExpress is local to Calgary, Edmonton and Winnipeg (in addition to Vancouver) but has a somewhat more limited inventory/choices. CanadaComputers is local to Southern Ontario only and has a wide inventory. NCIX, MemoryExpress and CanadaComputers all price match to other Canadian retailers.
Im not local to Toronto but i do live a hour or two away so i might still have to ship but hopefully it wont be as exspensive.
So you would recommend ncix over the rest? and just use the others to find price matches? e.g. finding sale at tigerdirect that is cheaper then ncix and then price matching?
Thanks for the help! Ill use ncix instead because they do seem cheaper.
thanks a million!

~~dezi94

EDIT: what would be a good price for a case? 30 - 70$s?
Edited by dezi94 - 8/27/11 at 8:26pm
post #13 of 22
Newegg.ca ships from US warehouses, they would be terribly expensive.
NCIX has a deal this week until next Wednesday: $5.99 shipping for your entire order above $50 and under 100 lbs. Good for full builds. Since they also price match, looks like the best place to buy.

I'm a fan of the NZXT Source 210 (not sure if available in Canada) and similar NZXT cases, Fractal Design stuff (there's a good budget case available at NCIX but I can't remember how much), or Lancool (K58W or K58WB is often a good value).

NCIX Toronto's stores are in the suburbs; specifically, Scarborough, Markham and Mississauga. Canada computers stores are scattered throughout southern Ontario.

If you can wait definitely do until the release date of the upcoming AM3+ FX series chips.

Also, even 4GB of RAM (2x2GB ideal) is suitable for gaming. 2x4GB may be priced low, but is still overkill.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/27/11 at 8:33pm
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
Newegg.ca ships from US warehouses, they would be terribly expensive.
NCIX has a deal this week until next Wednesday: $5.99 shipping for your entire order above $50 and under 100 lbs. Good for full builds. Since they also price match, looks like the best place to buy.

I'm a fan of the NZXT Source 210 (not sure if available in Canada) and similar NZXT cases, Fractal Design stuff (there's a good budget case available at NCIX but I can't remember how much), or Lancool (K58W or K58WB is often a good value).

NCIX Toronto's stores are in the suburbs; specifically, Scarborough, Markham and Mississauga. Canada computers stores are scattered throughout southern Ontario.

If you can wait definitely do until the release date of the upcoming AM3+ FX series chips.

Also, even 4GB of RAM (2x2GB ideal) is suitable for gaming. 2x4GB may be priced low, but is still overkill.
Wouldnt the FX chips coming out with the motherboards be crazy exspensive though? i dont want to go crazy with buget though
post #15 of 22
AM3+ motherboards already compatible with the FX are out. I can confirm that one 8-core model of the FX series processor will be priced at $300. Other FX 4-core and 6-core processors are expected to fill the $180-300 range as well.
To get the best OC-ing potential out of any processor you want aftermarket cooling, a proper motherboard with proper VRMs, and proper RAM (at least DDR3-1600) for bus clock OC-ing.
post #16 of 22
Thread Starter 
thanks for the help guys/girls. You all have been a extreme help! i have my setup pretty much layed out and ready to order! thanks so much!
post #17 of 22
Nice!
Can you show us? There may be some final issues to iron out in the list (i.e. parts quality and value) that we can help you with.
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
Hey guys! Sorry for not posting right away; just wanted to post on my new computer!. Ill post specs as soon as i have enough time; gotta run! thanks so much!
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
i feel like quite the jerk for not posting my specs for so long!

CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965 BA
GPU: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
MOBO: ASUS Sabortooth 990fx
RAM: Corsair Vengeance (2*4GB)
Power: OCZ 700 watt
Monitor:BenQ 21.5 inch LED
Case: Coolmaster CM 690 adv add (cause they where outta basic)

addons:
optical: LG lightscribe supermulti (it was 20$ and works great)
mouse
keyboard
Corsair headphones 7.1 surroundsound! (returns but sound great! 80% off!)
win7 home premium 64bit
(the heatsink and fan we mentioned but i cant remember but its HUGE)

Thanks so much guys/girls for all the great help! i couldn't of done it without you!

it works AMAZING btw; highest graphics on all games (including skyrim!)

amazing community, amazing staff, amazing people KEEP IT UPPPP.biggrin.gif
post #20 of 22
Thread Starter 
its been 8 months so i decided to do a little follow up if anyone is interested.

My rig is still running beautiful, all games ( including bf3) run in highest graphics setting with >60 fps at lowest peak.
Now contemplating SLIing this babe soon but not exact ally sure what SLI will really do for me performance wise (or if another 460 will fit with my OCZ power supply, it is streched as is lol!)
havent been able to overclock yet (its been way to delayed), it is bug and crash free, as far as defult systems settings go.
hopeing AMD comes out with a better FX then the one released... and that they keep the AM3+ socket set seeing thats why i bought the sabretooth, (so i have upgrading options!)
All my friends say INTEL is the way to go; someone PLEASE give me a pro and con of both amd and intel (or link?). Though i wouldnt give my rig up for the world lol. AMD WOO.

The only other thing i can think about is that all the actual parts run with fuency and ease, couldnt be happeir with a rig.

p.s. cm 690 II adv. is A TANK. Walking towards my computer a few months back, i wiped out on top of it and it blue screened (AHH), restarted it and NOTHING was wrong. (when i mean i wiped out i REALLY mean i went full out body tackle. lol!)

I still cant thank you all enough who helped, even 8 months later!

- Dezi

3/30/2012
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