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post #31 of 68
Can't comment on the U2312HM because it's not out in the wild but the U2311H and the U2412M are both super low in input lag. TFT Central said the U2311H was something like 8ms which is probably ZERO lag + Response time delay. I don't think the U2312HM will be any different, as it's really just a W-LED version.

I tested the U2412M over on [H]ardForum for input lag here:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?...post1037575075


A 16:10 monitor can always be put into 16:9. Comparing a 16:9 23" to a 16:10 24" the 24", when put into 1920x1080 resolution, and having the video card doing the scaling, will be a larger image.

www.tvcalculator.com is a great site to give a preview of TVs and monitor(s) image sizes.

Plug in the numbers, put in either no image or a 16:9 image and see the 16:10 24" is still the larger image over a 23" 16:9 screen.

Now a 16:9 24" will be slightly larger than a 16:10 24" when showing 16:9 content, BUT until the new S-PVA 16:9 24" panels come from Samsung for the new Dell screens, the options for 24" 16:9 are either TN, or very slow A-MVA.
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post #32 of 68
This stupid 16:10 vs 16:9 argument again. You can set the monitor and or in game setting to 16:9. It is an invalid point.

Let's focus on the input lag and response times of this monitor in games, specifically fast games since they will probably show it the most.
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Here is one of the better videos I found. Granted this guy is a giant disgrace to pc gamers for owning a mac and probably overpaying, here is the video:


Hopefully racing games are the only reason he uses that garbage controller. Anyway, on the side monitors, it is moving extremely fast (as it should in a racing game), and it is probably far faster than any fps gameplay, I think it is safe to assume that these monitors will do just fine in game. Further comments?
post #34 of 68
For most people you can stick a 30ms and a 2ms monitor in front of them and they won't be able to tell the difference.

People here tend to make a huge deal out of a tiny difference.

I'll just make it simple. If you're satisfied with the youtube video above, then you're fine grabbing any of the aforementioned monitors.

The differences everyone here is arguing about aren't even recognized by most of the populations and are only of concern to pro gamers, individuals with exceptions eye sight and display enthusiasts.

Let me put this in another perspective. You have people arguing that molecular orbital theory is right and quantum mechanics is completely wrong or vice versa. For the general population, both accomplish the same thing (to explain electron behavior) and no one outside professionals and enthusiasts give a damn or notice.
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That's because it is a huge deal if it will make a difference. I would rather do the research and fine out rather than buy it first and then find out. Your comment was of no help at all. No one is arguing about anything, except those people who keep going on about 16:10 and 16:9.

All we are trying to do is get some research done and we post here because many people here have resources to do so.
post #36 of 68
My whole point is the the response time, input lag and aspect ratio differences between those monitors makes no difference to the majority of people, and in fact will not be noticed by most people.

It is NOT a huge deal. You're making a big deal out of something that isn't.

I use 3 u2311H at home, a u2711H at work. I've used tons of quality TN monitors as well as projectors. I've happily gamed and done graphic design work on all of these.

End of the day, the differences between all of these are minor and you're never going to get a definitive answer as to the best monitor. Don't get so wrapped up over minor differences. You'll be perfectly happy with any of the quality monitors mentioned.
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For most people you can stick a 30ms and a 2ms monitor in front of them and they won't be able to tell the difference.

People here tend to make a huge deal out of a tiny difference.

I'll just make it simple. If you're satisfied with the youtube video above, then you're fine grabbing any of the aforementioned monitors.

The differences everyone here is arguing about aren't even recognized by most of the populations and are only of concern to pro gamers, individuals with exceptions eye sight and display enthusiasts.

Let me put this in another perspective. You have people arguing that molecular orbital theory is right and quantum mechanics is completely wrong or vice versa. For the general population, both accomplish the same thing (to explain electron behavior) and no one outside professionals and enthusiasts give a damn or notice.
Yes, but stick a 30ms (input) lag monitor next to a 2ms (input) lag screen and I guarantee most people who are even part time gamers would notice.

A simple test is to take the two monitors in this example and drag an open window half on one screen, and half on the other and look at which one responds faster. Yes, it's a cherry picked test, but fairly obvious.

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Originally Posted by banthracis View Post
My whole point is the the response time, input lag and aspect ratio differences between those monitors makes no difference to the majority of people, and in fact will not be noticed by most people.

It is NOT a huge deal. You're making a big deal out of something that isn't.

I use 3 u2311H at home, a u2711H at work. I've used tons of quality TN monitors as well as projectors. I've happily gamed and done graphic design work on all of these.

End of the day, the differences between all of these are minor and you're never going to get a definitive answer as to the best monitor. Don't get so wrapped up over minor differences. You'll be perfectly happy with any of the quality monitors mentioned.

I'd agree with this though to some extent, it just depends on the target use/gaming of the user.
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My whole point is the the response time, input lag and aspect ratio differences between those monitors makes no difference to the majority of people, and in fact will not be noticed by most people.

It is NOT a huge deal. You're making a big deal out of something that isn't.

I use 3 u2311H at home, a u2711H at work. I've used tons of quality TN monitors as well as projectors. I've happily gamed and done graphic design work on all of these.

End of the day, the differences between all of these are minor and you're never going to get a definitive answer as to the best monitor. Don't get so wrapped up over minor differences. You'll be perfectly happy with any of the quality monitors mentioned.

Now that is useful. The fact that you have gamed on them flawlessly puts further belief into the u2311. I was originally looking at the aw2310 but decided against it because there is no way I would hit 120fps in games, especially with 3 of them. Just doing some research on the details, because the details can indeed be noticed. Its just my personal preference to find out what others have to say from their experience that use it for what I will be using it for before I actually take the plunge. You are right, it is a minimal difference in response time, but it could make all the difference in a fast paced game, especially since so many people say response times are never advertised correctly.

Seeing how it performs for myself is the best way for me to make an informed decision, rather than a blind decision.
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I'm not trying to belittle your efforts to find the best monitors, in fact researching is very good.

I was just trying to point out that between high quality monitors there's very little difference. Plenty of people say the u2711h sucks for gaming due to input lag and ghosting, but I don't see any difference between it and my u2311h's. There's definitive scientific evidence that the difference exists, but for me, and probably most people it's too minor to notice.

I'm no pro gamers, and these people may notice, but I really don't.

I don't play much FPS, but I've played racing games, mmorpgs and RTS's on these setups, with SC2 the only one I really competitively played on my current setup(was high diamond season 1 before I stopped).

Researching to find high quality monitors is good, but there comes a point where you just have to look back a little at the big picture and realize that you've found your good options and trying to nitpick amongst them will just be an effort in frustration.

I used to do this a ton with work orders (especially projectors), until I realized the end users never noticed or cared, and that I was basically wasting a lot of my time on minor details.

So now I just keep a list of high quality options and just pick the best fitting/most cost effective one at the time of order.
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post #40 of 68
yeah, it has been agrivating to find comments on those little details, but a few youtube videos took care of it. This ips looks like it will be my decision, and I should be able to get a discount on it as well one way or another. Even better if it goes on sale when I choose to buy it, which will most likely be extremely soon.
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