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Hi, so I just experienced that "doh.gif" moment when removing the top of the case and realizing you can't fit a full-size 120mm fan on the top right for push-pull...

I've done some searching and it looks like a lot of people who don't want to mod their case are using Scythe 120mm x 12mm fans. I recently saw this on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835705066

It's a 120mm x 15.8mm PWM fan by Gelid Solutions. Does anybody know if 15.8mm is enough clearance for a 120mm fan on the top right fan mount underneath the handle?

And what is the minimum fan *size* that will fit there? 92mm/100mm/120mm?
Edited by LeMonarque - 7/3/13 at 6:10am
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Hi, so I just experienced that "doh.gif" moment when removing the top of the case and realizing you can't fit a full-size 120mm fan on the top right for push-pull...

I've done some searching and it looks like a lot of people who don't want to mod their case are using Scythe 120mm x 12mm fans. I recently saw this on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835705066

It's a 120mm x 15.8mm PWM fan by Gelid Solutions. Does anybody know if 15.8mm is enough clearance for a 120mm fan on the top right fan mount underneath the handle?

And what is the minimum fan *size* that will fit there? 92mm/100mm/120mm?


Yeah we've all had that moment only major design flaw with this case...

As far as the minimum size for top and basically any fan mount on this case is a 120mm.

As far as the exact fan width max for a fan to put on top under handle vs normal 25mm fan I'm not sure. Ill measure it in a bit and let you know if the 15.8mm will work!

As far as the gelid vs scythe I vote geild. Used many fans from them on various builds and their great.
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Ok update...

I measure close to 3/4" of and inch but a measurement trying to factor in the bottom part of the exposing rivet and the thickness of my tape measure under case handle where fan frame will be under your looking about of 11/16" of an inch to be safe...

That being said that by my calculation is 17.462mm of safe space

So you can fit the Geild 15.8mm fan under there with about 1.662mm-3.25mm (This being the 11/16" vs 3/4" measurement) to spare...

I wouldn't recommend anything greater than the 15.8mm for ease of install but I think you should have no problem sliding that Geild or and 15.8mm fan under the handle/rivets!

So anyone in this club pay attention 15.8mm is my safe max fan width for top push or pull fan under handle without mod!

Hope this helps! wink.gif

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Ok update...

I measure close to 3/4" of and inch but a measurement trying to factor in the bottom part of the exposing rivet and the thickness of my tape measure under case handle where fan frame will be under your looking about of 11/16" of an inch to be safe...

That being said that by my calculation is 17.462mm of safe space

So you can fit the Geild 15.8mm fan under there with about 1.662mm-3.25mm (This being the 11/16" vs 3/4" measurement) to spare...

I wouldn't recommend anything greater than the 15.8mm for ease of install but I think you should have no problem sliding that Geild or and 15.8mm fan under the handle/rivets!

So anyone in this club pay attention 15.8mm is my safe max fan width for top push or pull fan under handle without mod!

Hope this helps! wink.gif

Intel(R) IPP JPEG encoder 7.0.1041 - Jul 19 2011;

This measurement must be in front page... yes... useful info btw + rep thumb.gif

Even the precise measurement for inside radiator under the roof... or another measurement "inside" the case.

Arghh... i'm just forget to upload my build pic here...

I'm sorry if my english is bad smile.gif
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This measurement must be in front page... yes... useful info btw + rep thumb.gif

Even the precise measurement for inside radiator under the roof... or another measurement "inside" the case.

Arghh... i'm just forget to upload my build pic here...

I'm sorry if my english is bad smile.gif

Thanks ya I know it will help!

Ill be giving more modding and watercooling updates and fittment options as my build progresses!
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So you can fit the Geild 15.8mm fan under there with about 1.662mm-3.25mm (This being the 11/16" vs 3/4" measurement) to spare...

I wouldn't recommend anything greater than the 15.8mm for ease of install but I think you should have no problem sliding that Geild or and 15.8mm fan under the handle/rivets!

So anyone in this club pay attention 15.8mm is my safe max fan width for top push or pull fan under handle without mod!

Hope this helps! wink.gif

I love you. Thanks for the help! +rep
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I love you. Thanks for the help! +rep

Ya np!

If you ever need any other advice whether it be fan spec selection case mods or water-cooling/overclocking I'm pretty good at it all!


Regarding fitment my current build status, the rad I have up top is a ex280. I have the rad mounted to top of case and have 25mm thick fans under it in exhaust. I had to mod the corner of the fans to fit around my 8pin and above my Crosshair V Formula-Z. Since my whole system is gonna change on my 21'st bday this month I wont go into much detail but If I was new to a custom loop and modding I would go with the same rad (if desired, or even a 240ex, same applies to any 35.5mm rad) I would go with 15.8mm fans like the question above in order to not have to mod fan placement and super tight fitting over mobos with high vrm heatsinks like my Formula-Z. That way you'd get a little more play room for ease of install as well as cable routing if you go behind mobo tray like I do. Then I would get the same fans and put them up top for the finish of the push or pull set-up. Will fit very neatly without worrying about vrm or ram slot clearance and modding.

If you wanted a better fan selection option such as the Corsair sp120 I have on my rear rad or typhoons or any 25mm regular 120mm fan for that matter, I would go with this rad for a 240 up top...

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_1075&products_id=34155

The St30 is one of my favorite 30mm rads. Neck and neck with the black ice models performance wise. This would give you the ability to mount under top with 1 set of 25mm thick fans underneath. Now of course if you want push/pull you would need the no > than the 15.8mm for the fan under handle up top.

Having a 35mm rad like the Xspc EX series with nice 15.8mm fans will yield about the same performance as a st30 with one set of 25mm high static fans.

Now I know this may be redundant but you would only be 1.1mm longer with a st30 with push pull 15.8mm fans all under the roof if one desired. I will not recommend that set-up with a mobo like mine or a close substitute. Now if you had a board like the Giga ud3 990fx for example, you could get away with that certain push/pull setup up top because of mobo clearances, speak from experience used that board on 3 different builds, 2 being in the trooper.


Here is a photo of the close up on my 25mm fans under ex280 rad over 8pin and mobo vrms. I know its hard to see not great camera but the back right corner of the fan is trimmed of the 8pin barely click in...
The distance between the fan blades/motor and the vrm's is like NILL. Maybe 1mm at most. That why i recommended the above to others!

EDIT: Turned on my rgb leds to try to give better picture

Intel(R) IPP JPEG encoder 7.0.1041 - Jul 19 2011;
Intel(R) IPP JPEG encoder 7.0.1041 - Jul 19 2011;

Ignore the blue 3pin fan connector all ugly, externally testing a d5 pump -.-

Sorry for the long post just trying to give potential useful info!
Will keep posting as i think of good advice

-Cheers
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Edited by sgtgates - 7/3/13 at 12:15pm
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Intel(R) IPP JPEG encoder 7.0.1041 - Jul 19 2011;

-Cheers
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Just remember people, the issue of power plug, and heat sink is per motherboard.

Example. MSI-Z77A-GDXX series motherboards heat sinks even get in the way of mounting a fan in that back spot, while the power is totally out of the way. (power plug is to the left of that little VRM)



converse example: Maximus V Formula has much lower profile vrm heat-sinks and better power plug location.


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Regarding fitment my current build status, the rad I have up top is a ex280. I have the rad mounted to top of case and have 25mm thick fans under it in exhaust. I had to mod the corner of the fans to fit around my 8pin and above my Crosshair V Formula-Z. Since my whole system is gonna change on my 21'st bday this month I wont go into much detail but If I was new to a custom loop and modding I would go with the same rad (if desired, or even a 240ex, same applies to any 35.5mm rad) I would go with 15.8mm fans like the question above in order to not have to mod fan placement and super tight fitting over mobos with high vrm heatsinks like my Formula-Z. That way you'd get a little more play room for ease of install as well as cable routing if you go behind mobo tray like I do. Then I would get the same fans and put them up top for the finish of the push or pull set-up. Will fit very neatly without worrying about vrm or ram slot clearance and modding.

So I take it THIS (http://www.ekwb.com/shop/radiators-fans-accessories/radiators/ek-coolstram-xt/ek-coolstream-rad-xt-240.html) would be a no-no on the top of the Stryker? I have a Sabertooth Z87.thinking.gif

"Dimensions (LxWxH): 276x123x47mm "

EDIT:
I've been browsing through FrozenCPU.com's 240-rads, and unfortunately the ST30 is out of stock mad.gif

So I went and selected a few 30mm rads, which are as follows:

Swiftech MCR220 "Quiet Power" 2 x 120mm Radiator w/ Reservoir
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6571/ex-rad-126

Black Ice GT Stealth 240 Radiator
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4083/ex-rad-84

Black Ice GT Stealth 240 X-Flow Radiator
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4085/ex-rad-86

Magicool Extreme Dual 120mm Radiator - Slim Profile
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12702/ex-rad-227

And as a result, I am now highly confused tongue.gif
First: what's a split fin radiator?

Second: what's a Crossflow/X-Flow radiator?
As far as I can tell from just looking at one, a crossflow rad is just a rad where you fit the tubes on opposite sides and corners, allowing for more flexible placement for full loops. Did I miss any technical stuff? Does it cool any better than a normal rad with both tubes on one end?
Edited by LeMonarque - 7/3/13 at 2:02pm
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http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4085/ex-rad-86

Looks like, yes it points to the style of fittings... Though, most high end rads come with 4-6 ports for ease of use.

looking at the rest now.

Split fin sounds like a companies way of differentiating there product.

Iv'e never used any of those companies... I normally stick to Alphacool rads.
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