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Alright, one last question: a 240-rad on the bottom of the case will extend under the HDD cages. I don't want to do any modding, so that means the holes under the cages will still be there.

If I orient fans on the bottom rad as exhaust, they use warm air to cool the gpu and(?) steal air from my rear/top rad. If I orient the fans on the bottom rad as intake, they blow even hotter air onto my hard drives.

Solution(?) : orient the right fan as exhaust and the left-fan as intake? Will having opposite directions of air flow on each half of the rad cause any problems? I don't want to cook my hard drives, and I don't want to use warm air to cool the gpu. The "exhaust" fan would be partly sucking in the fresh air brought in by my lower 120mm front intake fan anyways, right?

Also, I just noticed these threaded holes on the rear of the hard drive cages (when front-facing). I measured them as best I could and they seem to be spaced for a 140mm fan. Has anybody tried screwing a 140mm fan to the back of the drive bay?
Edited by LeMonarque - 7/5/13 at 4:29pm
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post #8232 of 12482
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Originally Posted by LeMonarque View Post

Alright, one last question: a 240-rad on the bottom of the case will extend under the HDD cages. I don't want to do any modding, so that means the holes under the cages will still be there.

If I orient fans on the bottom rad as exhaust, they use warm air to cool the gpu and(?) steal air from my rear/top rad. If I orient the fans on the bottom rad as intake, they blow even hotter air onto my hard drives.

Solution(?) : orient the right fan as exhaust and the left-fan as intake? Will having opposite directions of air flow on each half of the rad cause any problems? I don't want to cook my hard drives, and I don't want to use warm air to cool the gpu. The "exhaust" fan would be partly sucking in the fresh air brought in by my lower 120mm front intake fan anyways, right?

Also, I just noticed these threaded holes on the rear of the hard drive cages (when front-facing). I measured them as best I could and they seem to be spaced for a 140mm fan. Has anybody tried screwing a 140mm fan to the back of the drive bay?

The only thing you would have to mod is the little cross bar at the bottom of the HDD cage racks, IF you are getting a rad over 60mm thick.



this is how i do it right now... bottom rad blows out the bottom, top rad blows out the top... exhaust blows in, and i mounted two fans on the front side panel to also blow in. Which A. gives cool air to the rads and also blows on GPU back plates/blocks. I forgot to draw it in, but i have one fan mounted in the area of the top HDD rack, it blows on my pump n stuff.

So, in total 4 case fans blowing in, 10 rad fans blowing out. (push pull was a MUST on the fat rad, not really needed on the top one, but i did it any ways.

as to the HDD cages... idk i tossed those away with in minutes of taking apart the case. I have 2 SSD's



And one 3tb HDD that sits on top of my psu... lol! i'm 100% out of space.
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post #8233 of 12482
I have a 240mm rad on the bottom as exhaust. It doesn't really affect the fans located on the cage (very minimal). Did an air test at university in IT with a coloured smoke substitute which mimicks the airflow and shows airflow circulaton. Having air blow downwards exhaust to the bottom of the case worked a lot better than intake as the intake created a little vortex if you will. Hope this info helped, did all sorts of tests with different configurations to see what would work the best. What can I say had a little too much time on my hands that day lol. I don't think having one as intake and 1 exhaust would be a good alternative
post #8234 of 12482
Hi guys!

I'm doing a bit of experimenting with air flow and it's really addictive! Temperature variations can be huge based on where you put things.

I had all my hard drives together and was getting ~28°c. Then I decided to separate them and temperatures dropped to ~22°c.

Now I'm thinking about the air that flows onwards towards the GPU and CPU. Which one of these do you think would less obstructive to air flow?



I guess it would depend on exactly how the fan pushes the air. I've read that fans mostly blow air to the outer edges, and very little air flow comes from the center of the fan. That's why I'm thinking the first picture is best (and how I have it now).

Also, I've been reading that it's bad with airflow to have two fans fighting for the same air. Like the way the rear and top exhaust are set up in the stock Storm Trooper. Should I just disconnect the top 200mm fan? It would be logical for air flow, as I have a CPU cooler and it blows from front to back over a heat sink.

Thanks for reading! thumb.gif
Edited by user587 - 7/6/13 at 5:06am
post #8235 of 12482
Also, I've noticed the side panels don't seem particularly helpful in regards to air flow, but they do let a lot of noise escape the system. Would there be any harm in covering these up from the inside with something like an old Razer mouse pad and some sticky tape? Hardly high-end modding, I know, but I've tried it and it seems to dampen the noise of the fans, HDDs and GPU greatly. wink.gif
post #8236 of 12482
I haven't noticed any big changes in temperatures at all. Both my cpu and gpu are 32C on idle and 44C on load with ambient temp on 22.5C
And I have all fans blowing air throw a radiator in the case.

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Also, I've noticed the side panels don't seem particularly helpful in regards to air flow, but they do let a lot of noise escape the system. Would there be any harm in covering these up from the inside with something like an old Razer mouse pad and some sticky tape? Hardly high-end modding, I know, but I've tried it and it seems to dampen the noise of the fans, HDDs and GPU greatly. wink.gif

sure, you can use some sort of padding on the doors, bottom, front and top. I've done that too in the past, although I used packing foam wink.gif
Edited by SortOfGrim - 7/6/13 at 7:16am
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I have a 240mm rad on the bottom as exhaust. It doesn't really affect the fans located on the cage (very minimal). Did an air test at university in IT with a coloured smoke substitute which mimicks the airflow and shows airflow circulaton. Having air blow downwards exhaust to the bottom of the case worked a lot better than intake as the intake created a little vortex if you will. Hope this info helped, did all sorts of tests with different configurations to see what would work the best. What can I say had a little too much time on my hands that day lol. I don't think having one as intake and 1 exhaust would be a good alternative

It's all good, people with the means for testing that actually do testing are my favorite kind of people thumb.gif

Anyways, so would a:

Front: 2x120mm intake
Bottom: push-pull rad exhaust
Top: push-pull rad exhaust
Rear: 1x120mm exhaust

be better or worse than a:

Front 2x120mm intake
Bottom: push-pull rad intake
Top: push-pull rad exhaust
Rear: 1x120mm exhaust
mellowsmiley.gif

Also, has anybody tried fitting a 140mm fan in the threaded holes on the backs of the HDD cages? The threads are pre-drilled directly into the frame of the case.
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Originally Posted by LeMonarque View Post

It's all good, people with the means for testing that actually do testing are my favorite kind of people thumb.gif

Anyways, so would a:

Front: 2x120mm intake
Bottom: push-pull rad exhaust
Top: push-pull rad exhaust
Rear: 1x120mm exhaust

be better or worse than a:

Front 2x120mm intake
Bottom: push-pull rad intake
Top: push-pull rad exhaust
Rear: 1x120mm exhaust
mellowsmiley.gif

Also, has anybody tried fitting a 140mm fan in the threaded holes on the backs of the HDD cages? The threads are pre-drilled directly into the frame of the case.

I found for my set up and this was just circulation mind you:
Top 240mm rad as intake
Bottom 240mm rad as exhaust
Front x2 120 fans intake
Back 140mm fan exhaust.
Mind you I was a little surprised that this seemed to create the best flow. As i would have thought that this wouldnt work but it did so I chose this configuration. :-)
Edited by foreign03 - 7/6/13 at 8:54am
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Your prodigy is amazing. I think my problem may be more that I don't have the tools necessary for the job. I come up with some decent idea's, but have no idea what tools to use to implement them.

Let me know about your mod ideas and ill help you to decide which is the proper tools for the mod.
   
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How man fans blow out?

You let your fans blow radiator warm air into your case?

May not be an issue with one gpu one cpu with all that radage, If you plan to upgrade you may find allot warmer air coming out of the rads.
Edited by skupples - 7/6/13 at 12:14pm
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