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Originally Posted by Parasyte View Post

So this should be my set up? (The PC will be on hard wood flooring btw.)

Front: 2x 120mm intake
Bottom: 2x 120mm intake
Top: 200mm intake
Rear: 140mm exhaust

This is a good idea, but there is one thing you should probably consider about doing this. Do you want to keep the toolbox in your case?

You can install two 120mm fans in the bottom with the toolbox still in place, but the fan nearest the front will only push air a few mm before hitting the toolbox. So I'd ask yourself do you really need a front fan down there to cool your toolbox?

I did install a back fan on the bottom cause it helps move air up and out of the case, but not a front fan. Instead I mounted my power inverter that powers my EL wire in that front spot just under the toolbox.

Anyways, that's just my 2 cents so you might take that into consideration if you want to keep the toolbox in your case.

On a side note, are you wanting to make the top fan an intake? You could do that, but personally I wouldn't. After all, heat rises so in my eyes you might as well make it an exhaust to help let that heat rise on out of your case.
Edited by Ne1ld0 - 7/15/13 at 8:55am
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post #8342 of 12472
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Does anybody know of a way to mount a third front intake fan? Not a radiator fan, just an intake fan. Something short of buying an extra HDD cage from Cooler Master?

You could easily hot glue the fan to a few of the front case slat thingies. I have done this and it works really well actually. Hot glue guns are the beeze kneeze for modding.
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

no mater which way the fan is ( push or pull ) it has to force air though the rad. ( or any restriction )

cfm is amount of air moved

static pressure is the force in which it goes through it ( cfm with no pressure through a screen will drop to almost none )


This, this this 100%... high CFM fans normally have thin fast blades.

SP rad fans have slower really fat blades, keeping the air from bouncing back through the fan.
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post #8343 of 12472
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This is a good idea, but there is one thing you should probably consider about doing this. Do you want to keep the toolbox in your case?

You can install two 120mm fans in the bottom with the toolbox still in place, but the fan nearest the front will only push air a few mm before hitting the toolbox. So I'd ask yourself do you really need a front fan down there to cool your toolbox?

I did install a back fan on the bottom cause it helps move air up and out of the case, but not a front fan. Instead I mounted my power inverter that powers my EL wire in that front spot just under the toolbox.

Anyways, that's just my 2 cents so you might take that into consideration if you want to keep the toolbox in your case.

On a side note, are you wanting to make the top fan an intake? You could do that, but personally I wouldn't. After all, heat rises so in my eyes you might as well make it an exhaust to help let that heat rise on out of your case.
No, I won't be keeping the tool box in the case.

And I was originally thinking of having the fans at the top being exhaust fan even if they are mounted to a 240mm rad.
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

no mater which way the fan is ( push or pull ) it has to force air though the rad. ( or any restriction )

cfm is amount of air moved

static pressure is the force in which it goes through it ( cfm with no pressure through a screen will drop to almost none )

So for the two bottom intake fans on the Stryker, if for example I was deciding on Corsair fans, I'd want 2x SP120's instead of 2x AF120's? How about for the front intake fans?

And if I was deciding on Noctua fans, would I want 2x NF-P12's or NF-F12's for intakes or NF-S12A's for intakes?

Basically I don't understand because if what you all say is true, then there is zero application for CFM-optimized fans. They'd perform badly against case grilles, so they're bad for exhaust. They'd perform badly on rads. Now they'd perform badly pulling through filters, so they're bad for intake.

What else is left? Why do CFM-optimized fans like the Corsair AF120/140 exist if they're so non-optimal for every situation possible besides having a fan suspended in mid-air inside your case with nothing but clear space in front of and behind the blades?

I don't want to sound like I want to prove you wrong or anything, I'm just incredibly confused and wondering if I made the wrong purchase 30 days ago (outside of return date cryingsmiley.gif).

EDIT:
I'm reading more about front-intake fan selection, and a lot of people say you want static pressure. But that's for cases with side-facing HDD bays that are almost solid plates with a few holes in them for air to pass through. Nothing is mentioned about the filtered intake that the fan has to suck through.

Since the Stryker can have front-facing drives with front intake fans, leaving a wide open hole for the air to flow through, does the logic above still apply? Are filters still going to kill air flow on CFM-optimized intake fans?
Edited by LeMonarque - 7/15/13 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by LeMonarque View Post

So for the two bottom intake fans on the Stryker, if for example I was deciding on Corsair fans, I'd want 2x SP120's instead of 2x AF120's? How about for the front intake fans?

And if I was deciding on Noctua fans, would I want 2x NF-P12's or NF-F12's for intakes or NF-S12A's for intakes?

Basically I don't understand because if what you all say is true, then there is zero application for CFM-optimized fans. They'd perform badly against case grilles, so they're bad for exhaust. They'd perform badly on rads. Now they'd perform badly pulling through filters, so they're bad for intake.

What else is left? Why do CFM-optimized fans like the Corsair AF120/140 exist if they're so non-optimal for every situation possible besides having a fan suspended in mid-air inside your case with nothing but clear space in front of and behind the blades?

I don't want to sound like I want to prove you wrong or anything, I'm just incredibly confused and wondering if I made the wrong purchase 30 days ago (outside of return date cryingsmiley.gif).

EDIT:
I'm reading more about front-intake fan selection, and a lot of people say you want static pressure. But that's for cases with side-facing HDD bays that are almost solid plates with a few holes in them for air to pass through. Nothing is mentioned about the filtered intake that the fan has to suck through.

Since the Stryker can have front-facing drives with front intake fans, leaving a wide open hole for the air to flow through, does the logic above still apply? Are filters still going to kill air flow on CFM-optimized intake fans?

As far as i remember, the storm trooper only has 3 dust filters... two on the bottom and one on top.

CFM fans are for cases, SP are for rads (some say HDD trays) I think people mean to say, the stock coolermaster screens are so restrictive that it would require SP fans to get good flow through them.

Corsair fans exist to look cool.

My best advice, get the fastest fans you can find, then put them ona controller so you can adjust noise level.
Edited by skupples - 7/15/13 at 2:13pm
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post #8346 of 12472
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As far as i remember, the storm trooper only has 3 dust filters... two on the bottom and one on top.

CFM fans are for cases, SP are for rads (some say HDD trays) I think people mean to say, the stock coolermaster screens are so restrictive that it would require SP fans to get good flow through them.

Corsair fans exist to look cool.

My best advice, get the fastest fans you can find, then put them ona controller so you can adjust noise level.

So for the layered meshy part of the front of the case will require (or work best with) CFM fans?
And the dual 120mm bottom intakes will work best with SP fans?
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Guys my case arrived today. It came directly from CoolerMaster USA. Project Imagination is my first ever sponsored build so please subscribe on my build log. Thank you so much! smile.gif

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So for the layered meshy part of the front of the case will require (or work best with) CFM fans?
And the dual 120mm bottom intakes will work best with SP fans?
CFM isn't a type of fan. It means "Cubic Feet per Minute." It refers to the airflow of the fan.
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Guys my case arrived today. It came directly from CoolerMaster USA. Project Imagination is my first ever sponsored build so please subscribe on my build log. Thank you so much! smile.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1405257/case-mod-project-imagination-by-adamski07-update-7-15


nice!! How did you get a sponsored build?
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So for the layered meshy part of the front of the case will require (or work best with) CFM fans?
And the dual 120mm bottom intakes will work best with SP fans?

Iv'e never actually tried to pull air through those dust shrouds, but if they are as restrictive as people are saying, then yes that is exactly what i would do.


you have SP(static pressure) and AF( airflow) fans.

I have a custom loop so i use highspeed gentle typhoons on all my rads. The rest of my fans are Kaze case fans. I have two on the trooper side panel, one on the chassis exhaust, and i hot glued one to the front of the case, via hot glue.

I know this is rather dust inducing but, my rads all blow out of the case, and all case fans blow in.
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nice!! How did you get a sponsored build?

Easy. smile.gif Don't ask for it, they will ask you for it. smile.gif
   
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