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post #851 of 7636
1/17/12 at 1:19pm
@Unimatrix, I haven't used any solvents or cleaning tools on my case. It just seems to be normal wear and tear.

From what we can see, the white is only a variant of the case. It doesn't bring any new features.


Anybody think that they have the best fan configuration for cooling?

Right now I have 9 Gentle Typhoons on my case, all 1850 rpm.

2x intake on the front drive bays
2x bottom intake
2x side intake

1x rear exhaust
2x top exhaust

I've been reading around - there's a guy called ehume in the cooling section that advocates for reversing the top fans to intake and making the case very strongly positive pressure.
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post #852 of 7636
1/17/12 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by CrazyElf View Post

@Unimatrix, I haven't used any solvents or cleaning tools on my case. It just seems to be normal wear and tear.

From what we can see, the white is only a variant of the case. It doesn't bring any new features.


Anybody think that they have the best fan configuration for cooling?

Right now I have 9 Gentle Typhoons on my case, all 1850 rpm.

2x intake on the front drive bays
2x bottom intake
2x side intake

1x rear exhaust
2x top exhaust

I've been reading around - there's a guy called ehume in the cooling section that advocates for reversing the top fans to intake and making the case very strongly positive pressure.


You must know that I was not implying cause and effect with your problems with the rubberized portion of your case. I think what you have is really a problem and you should contact the Coolermaster People to see if you can get a replacement Top.

200449
If you look at the bigger picture. You can see the tiny Stress fractures in the same area.


About turning the top fan to intake. This is not a new concept. This has been a common "THEORY" That is commonly spoken of but i seldom see this configuration. Although the people doing it may not be sharing the idea, I think it is a valid principal. I would love to see some serious tests on the subject. But.. As it is now your configuration looks great.
Edited by unimatrixzero - 1/17/12 at 6:22pm
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post #853 of 7636
1/17/12 at 5:41pm
400400

It looks like a mess I know =[ I need to order more fittings and find a proper place to put my res since I want to exhaust the back!
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post #854 of 7636
1/17/12 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by CrazyElf View Post

@Unimatrix, I haven't used any solvents or cleaning tools on my case. It just seems to be normal wear and tear.

From what we can see, the white is only a variant of the case. It doesn't bring any new features.


Anybody think that they have the best fan configuration for cooling?

Right now I have 9 Gentle Typhoons on my case, all 1850 rpm.

2x intake on the front drive bays
2x bottom intake
2x side intake

1x rear exhaust
2x top exhaust

I've been reading around - there's a guy called ehume in the cooling section that advocates for reversing the top fans to intake and making the case very strongly positive pressure.


You must know that I was not implying cause and effect with your problems with the rubberized portion of your case. I think what you have is really a problem and you should contact the Coolermaster People to see if you can get a replacement Top.

200449
If you look at the bigger picture. You can see the tiny Stress fractures in the same area.


About turning the top fan to intake. This is not a new concept. This has been a common "THEORY" That is commonly spoken of but i seldom see this configuration. Although the people doing it may not be sharing the idea, I think it is a valid principal. I would love to see some serious tests on the subject. But.. As it is now your configuration looks great.
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400400

It looks like a mess I know =[ I need to order more fittings and find a proper place to put my res since I want to exhaust the back!



I love this build. It looks great,.. Thanks for being a part of us.
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post #855 of 7636
1/18/12 at 1:36am
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Originally Posted by unimatrixzero View Post

About turning the top fan to intake. This is not a new concept. This has been a common "THEORY" That is commonly spoken of but i seldom see this configuration. Although the people doing it may not be sharing the idea, I think it is a valid principal. I would love to see some serious tests on the subject. But.. As it is now your configuration looks great.
They way I look at it, you want the same amount of airflow on the intake as you do on the exhaust. If your intake fans can move 200CF/m and your exhaust can only move 100CF/m, that will result in less overall airflow than 150CF/m on both.

I don't see the benefit on increasing the internal case pressure. Although it will result in slightly denser air, that air will also be slightly hotter.

My 2 cents.
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post #856 of 7636
1/18/12 at 3:35am
you think it endangers handling to case, those fractures ? or they rework with the case and solve the problem in Striker variant ?

I'll buy Storm Trooper or SSD this month, however i'm done with dust, it's everywhere, i dont like dust wha-smiley.png

I'm more concerned about the PSU though, too much dust may cause some problems inside, it needs cleaning every week almost

and also i've got some questions for troopers:

1. Dust: Since it's been a while, what about dust problem in your cases, i saw some pictures here (i just read whole topic) there's dust in fans on MoBos, are you happy about filters ?

2. PSU: I'm using Thermaltake Toughpower 750W, semi modular PSU right now, i assume there will be a problem about lenghts of cables, i want to place them properly (cable management) should i need cables or extensions if yes which one you recommend ? Same goes for DVD and HDD cables, i've got a cable from PSU to DVD1, DVD2 and HDD. Currently i'm using CM Haf 922 which is terrible in cable management (because of my installtion)

and nice mod for top of Striker already, i was thinking this for Trooper (carbonfiber cover for top of the case where usb and other things ?):

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Edited by Alvarez - 1/18/12 at 7:13am
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post #857 of 7636
1/18/12 at 9:52am
So this is my rig so far still a work in progress hope you like

Top Grills

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post #858 of 7636
1/18/12 at 10:24am
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by unimatrixzero View Post

About turning the top fan to intake. This is not a new concept. This has been a common "THEORY" That is commonly spoken of but i seldom see this configuration. Although the people doing it may not be sharing the idea, I think it is a valid principal. I would love to see some serious tests on the subject. But.. As it is now your configuration looks great.
They way I look at it, you want the same amount of airflow on the intake as you do on the exhaust. If your intake fans can move 200CF/m and your exhaust can only move 100CF/m, that will result in less overall airflow than 150CF/m on both.

I don't see the benefit on increasing the internal case pressure. Although it will result in slightly denser air, that air will also be slightly hotter.

My 2 cents.

I understand.. Why have pressurized air in the case getting hotter and hotter right. Will it begin to hover like a balloon. Not exactly the point of the arguement. The aim is not to pressurize the cabin but to change the air flow pattern. The cpu is cooler than the Gpu, so you allow the gpu heat a faster more expediant way of exiting the cabin. That is the idea behind reversing the top fan. I think if you reverse the top fan you should have the side fans pushing the Air out from the GPUs.
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you think it endangers handling to case, those fractures ? or they rework with the case and solve the problem in Striker variant ?

I'll buy Storm Trooper or SSD this month, however i'm done with dust, it's everywhere, i dont like dust wha-smiley.png

I'm more concerned about the PSU though, too much dust may cause some problems inside, it needs cleaning every week almost

and also i've got some questions for troopers:

1. Dust: Since it's been a while, what about dust problem in your cases, i saw some pictures here (i just read whole topic) there's dust in fans on MoBos, are you happy about filters ?

I have cleaned out my cabin once with pressurized air but the problem there was not bad at all. Almost nothing. I do get a dust build up on the front of my case from my intake fans but I use a really nice 2 inch paint brush to wipe it away once a week. There is alot of airflow in the case and if you are OCD about the dust I would put a double filter all the inward blowing fans.
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2. PSU: I'm using Thermaltake Toughpower 750W, semi modular PSU right now, i assume there will be a problem about lenghts of cables, i want to place them properly (cable management) should i need cables or extensions if yes which one you recommend ? Same goes for DVD and HDD cables, i've got a cable from PSU to DVD1, DVD2 and HDD. Currently i'm using CM Haf 922 which is terrible in cable management (because of my installtion)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=nzxt+sleeve
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and nice mod for top of Striker already, i was thinking this for Trooper (carbonfiber cover for top of the case where usb and other things ?):

413

That would be an Awsome Idea.. Use 3M Di Noc for your carbon fiber.. it looks the best.
598

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Originally Posted by Ub3rG33k View Post

So this is my rig so far still a work in progress hope you like

Top Grills

Back Panel

Cable Managment

Front Panel

Photobucket

Photobucket

Will keep you up to date on the changes

I am absolutly loving this Paint mod.. That red grill is toasty... Very nice.. Welcome to the Troopers Sir.
Edited by unimatrixzero - 1/18/12 at 10:32am
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1/18/12 at 11:23am
@unimatrixzero,

Thank you very much for info, i just looked Stryker and looks like they'll release it in Q2 which after April (if i'm correct) i can't wait that much biggrin.gif, i'll buy trooper, apply white, black or silver CF top of it, and try to apply Storm Trooper helmet to each side (white), i've got experience from modeling, but well..

Off-topic: Also, can i use PCIe-Molex and molex-sata power connector ?

On-topic: Did anyone try to modify first cage in case ? the one which can't be changeable ? If someone modify it i think i'll boost airflow for aircooled CPU, IMHO
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post #860 of 7636
1/18/12 at 2:31pm
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@unimatrixzero,
Thank you very much for info, i just looked Stryker and looks like they'll release it in Q2 which after April (if i'm correct) i can't wait that much biggrin.gif, i'll buy trooper, apply white, black or silver CF top of it, and try to apply Storm Trooper helmet to each side (white), i've got experience from modeling, but well..
Off-topic: Also, can i use PCIe-Molex and molex-sata power connector ?
On-topic: Did anyone try to modify first cage in case ? the one which can't be changeable ? If someone modify it i think i'll boost airflow for aircooled CPU, IMHO

The black looks fine. The look really grows on you with time. You'll see what I mean.

Both cages can be changed. I for example have both cages blowing air into the case, replaced the 2 front fans with Gentle Typhoon 1850 rpm fans, and have added another filter in front. The dust filters supplied aren't the best.



@Unimatrix:

It's a good idea. I'm gonna contact CM about the matter.




Also everyone, by careful with the PSU dust filter. Mine snapped. mad.gif This is a good case, but it does have issues.



Edit:

I know this sounds bizarre, but has anybody thought about painting their case yellow?
Edited by CrazyElf - 1/18/12 at 2:34pm
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