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post #1 of 20
8/31/11 at 7:31am
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Do you think we will see first mobos in the Q2 of 2012 or possibly early 2012?

Been waiting for Bulldozer forever but seeing that AM3+ is about to eol, I have lost all the passion and consider not buying it. Don't really want to buy a mobo that can't be used for future chips.
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8/31/11 at 10:33am
Well there is a lot of speculation, but the FM2 was going to be for komodo. This is supposed to be a 10 core CPU, I now believe BD will be AM3+ all the way. I seriously think it would not be in AMD's interest to release a second generation BD on another socket, they don't make money from that the mobo companies do, and I doubt there is a conflict of interest with all ethics taken into consideration. That being said, why would AMD do that to their consumers and risk people switching to intel out of fustration?
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8/31/11 at 10:44am
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Well there is a lot of speculation, but the FM2 was going to be for komodo. This is supposed to be a 10 core CPU, I now believe BD will be AM3+ all the way. I seriously think it would not be in AMD's interest to release a second generation BD on another socket, they don't make money from that the mobo companies do, and I doubt there is a conflict of interest with all ethics taken into consideration. That being said, why would AMD do that to their consumers and risk people switching to intel out of fustration?
AMD might switch sockets because we don't make AMD very much money. Their high end chips are loss leaders. Most of their profits come from OEMs. AMD wants to sell as many chips to OEMs as they can. The need to compete with Intel as closely as possible to retain market share. We are a very niche market in terms of CPU sales. Think about video cards. Nvidia doesn't make any money off selling a handful of GTX 590s. They make most of their money selling GT555m chips to laptop OEMs. It's the same thing with CPUs. AMD doesn't care how many times we have to buy a new motherboard to upgrade our CPU. As long as they are in line with their competition it's all good for them. AMD isn't looking out for us or anything because we don't really mean all that much in the grand scheme of things. Just to clear that up
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8/31/11 at 11:16am
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AMD might switch sockets because we don't make AMD very much money. Their high end chips are loss leaders. Most of their profits come from OEMs. AMD wants to sell as many chips to OEMs as they can. The need to compete with Intel as closely as possible to retain market share. We are a very niche market in terms of CPU sales. Think about video cards. Nvidia doesn't make any money off selling a handful of GTX 590s. They make most of their money selling GT555m chips to laptop OEMs. It's the same thing with CPUs. AMD doesn't care how many times we have to buy a new motherboard to upgrade our CPU. As long as they are in line with their competition it's all good for them. AMD isn't looking out for us or anything because we don't really mean all that much in the grand scheme of things. Just to clear that up
where would they make money off of OEM changing the mobo? I feel the monetary increase would be minimal, from just changing a socket. I find it odd that they would have a mobo socket out for only 2Q's, the AM3+ was designed to take bulldozer, why would they need anything more? Where have you seen a socket that only lasted 2Q's? Why even come out with another socket (AM3+) when some AM3 boards can use the Bulldozer, if there was going to be another socket change on the 2012 models, I would have expected them to design the first one to run on AM3.
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8/31/11 at 11:18am
Im thinking the FM2 chips and processors will be coming right around ivy bridges launch so march
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8/31/11 at 11:22am
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Im thinking the FM2 chips and processors will be coming right around ivy bridges launch so march
The dispute here though is, are these chips bulldozer chips, or another APU, or in a league of their own?
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8/31/11 at 3:10pm
Since the current FM1 boards are designed for an APU I would imagine that even if they released an FM2 board early next year it would be for a newer generation of the APU chips and not for Bulldozer. I would also guess with AMD's tendency to make it possible to up grade your motherboards and move your current processor to the new board that the FM2 boards and corresponding socket would still be able to use the current FM1 processors.
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8/31/11 at 3:23pm
Oh and to clear this up for LtCheese, of the CPU companies I think AMD cares a lot more about their customers than Intel does. It's Intel that puts out a new socket every year that requires you to buy a new processor, AMD allows you to move your current chip to the new socket at least once. For example when I finally decide what AM3+ board to go with I'll be able to move my AM3 processor over to it. Not to mention thanks to a Bios update the AM3 chip I have now is running in an AM2+ motherboard. But if I'd been running a P57 board and I wanted to upgrade to the P67 I'd have to buy a new processor. In another year they will probably come out with a new P series chipset and again change the pin count just so you have to purchase a new processor. With what Intel charges for their processors if I was a Intel fan I'd probably very quickly end up and AMD fan OH Yeah that's exactly what happened with me LoL!
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8/31/11 at 3:34pm
was just looking at some of the FM1 boards and FM stands for Fusion Media so any future sockets would be for APU's
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8/31/11 at 4:37pm

does this explain FM2 enough?
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