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Only 1 degree cooler than the Antec Kuhler 920?

It had better be alot cheaper...
Antec 920 is very loud. Phanteks isn't. Similar price if not cheaper.
post #52 of 66
Not surprisingly, they're quite pricey. Wonder if they'll bring them to the US ever? http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...ed::17306.html
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Well as Sandy Bridge is cooler and the nm keep getting smaller I don't think we are ever going to see a 24/7 overclocked Gulftown temps again. But never say never right
Gulftown is 32 nm like SB and we're seeing a lot of heat from both 32 and 45 nm CPU's compared to older processors. The problem is that while efficiency gets better, we also squeeze more into the same amount of space. I think CPU's will stay around where they are now in terms of heat output because otherwise it won't be possible to air cool them. When closed liquid cooling loops become affordable, we might see stock TDPs go up, but, as you can see, air cooling has reached a peak for now and that means that max heat outputs with OC will stay around where they are now.
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When closed liquid cooling loops become affordable, we might see stock TDPs go up...
Probably not, because the closed loop systems don't cool any better than the high end air coolers and are generally significantly louder.
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Probably not, because the closed loop systems don't cool any better than the high end air coolers and are generally significantly louder.
Like a H100? [/sarcasm]
   
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Probably not, because the closed loop systems don't cool any better than the high end air coolers and are generally significantly louder.
That's what I'm saying. STOCK TDPs will go up. A cheap closed loop is still better than a bad air cooler and if they were on highend air cooler level, Intel and AMD would be able to push STOCK speeds higher.
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Should see the other colours - http://www.eteknix.com/cooling/phant...iew-2121/page3

I personally like the blue the best, but the red matches my ROG boards from Asus.
yeah it looks cool too, but i might just get the phantek fans now, since i dont think ditching my venX for something that isnt even 5c ahead of it is practical.
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post #58 of 66
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yeah it looks cool too, but i might just get the phantek fans now, since i dont think ditching my venX for something that isnt even 5c ahead of it is practical.
Why not get some Thermalright TY TR-140s, much better fans.
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WOW. beat out...everything...
but i think im done with air coolers. theyre too big for my taste these days.
I'm in the same boat. I respect their ability to cool, but I don't want a massive chunk of metal in the middle of my case.
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Bigger cooler = bigger cooling capacity.

This is getting rediculous. We need different tech, not just something that is bigger and bigger everytime.
In staring contest with laws of nature the laws of nature usually win. With air coolers you can do few things for additional effectivity - increase surface area/mass, increase airflow (to some extent) or increase thermal conductivity of the heatsink.

Now with airflow you run pretty fast into dimishing returns. The effectivity jump is insane when you go from no airflow to some airflow, but going from 100 cfm to 200 cfm is usually not worth it as you get a lot more noise with rather mediocre temp drop at best.

Overall this looks cool if somewhat massive. Wasnt the official CPU cooler max allowed mass something like 350 grams according to official socket specification ?

As far as increasing motherboard size goes - I think I would quite like it, for example EATX as common standard above ATX not just "smaller server" boards in that section. With DDR4 spec coming up soonish and revisiting how the memory acsess works I would love to see some EATX board where every spare room is filled with RAM slots. You never have too much RAM.
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