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post #1591 of 2795
@ Leylan
I'm sure your 14PE will work fine. If you are not happy with it contact Phanteks for a advance replacement. Somehow a batch of these rippled black 14PEs' got through quality control and Phanteks is very aware of this problem and will replace it with one of another color.. don't know when they will have smoother bends in black available.

Here are some pics of coolers with similar rippling and how they performed in reviews. Keep in mind these pics were not taken is shadows or as closeup as yours so ripples are not as defined.

On i7 930 14PE was 25c cooler than stock cooler.. 2c warmer than H100

http://www.legitreviews.com/phanteks-ph-tc14pe-cpu-cooler-review_1759/7

On i5 2500k @4.0GHz 14PE was 38c cooler than stock cooler.. 3c warmer than H100

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Phanteks-PH-TC14PE-CPU-Cooler-Review/1615/6

On i5 2500k @4.7GHz 14PE was 2-3c cooler than NH-D14.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/henry-butt/phanteks-ph-tc14pe-vs-noctua-nh-d14-cpu-cooler-review/5/

On i7 920 @4.0GHz 14PE was 0.75c cooler than NH-D14

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,14.html
post #1592 of 2795
I don't think the crimped pipes affect performance too much. I have a black TC14PE with pretty bad pipes. Right now I am running 2x Gentle Typhoons attached. I get about 75C on IBT with a 3930k @ 4.5ghz (1.4v).
post #1593 of 2795
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Originally Posted by Leylan View Post

Hi all. New owner and first build still trying to wade through it. Came here as I saw what happened to a couple of people with the cable snafu. Tmolten received the wrong cables and so did I.
Assuming you recieved a 4-pin PWM Y-splitter (probably what is supplied with PH-TC12DX for it's PWM fans). The PWM adapter has 4 pin plug to motherboard and 3 pin socket. The 3 pin fans plug into the Y-splitter no problem, but obviously the 4 pin splitter plug will not plug into the 3 pin socket on PWM adapter. Just cut the side of socket so the 4 pin plug will fit onto it. It's a simple modification and does no damage. It just allows 4 pin plug to fit.

The first 3 pins on PWM 4 pin fan are the same as a 3 pin fan; 1 = Gnd, 2 = 12v or variable voltage, 3 = rpm.. and 4 = PWM signal . And you can plug a 3 pin fan into a 4 pin socket or plug a 4pin fan into a 3 pin socket.. but the end of the socket must be open to allow the 4th pin part of plug into the 3 pin socket housing.
post #1594 of 2795
My thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Predator: No not a photog just lucky once in awhile.

Doyll : I see what you mean about using what they sent my one concern on that is that one of their 4 pin males is missing a pin, so not matter what way you would plug one of the 3 pin females from the fan into it, only two pins would be inside the 3 pin female from the fan. I don't think I'm explaining it well so will try and show here what I mean with what follows representing a plug end head on: //// That would be what it looks like looking head onto the Y that came, the "hold tab" for the one on the left that is missing that pin falls in line with the first two from the left and the missing pin spot. I'm not experienced or versed enough to know, it seemed to me I'd be cutting a wire feed from the 3 pin and that wouldn't be a good thing. So if you're sure that's "ok" then I would like to fire it up and see if all the components work. I had some wiring I was finishing up last night now all I lack are the 4 case fans and the 2 on the phanteks.

I also see what you mean about the pictures you showed those units look fairly crimped and not in black at that also. I've got a lot of data running around my head but from what I recall the 14pe was within a couple degrees of the h100's in other reviews so that would seem to lend that it doesn't drastically alter performance?

Phantek's I still have not heard back from. Thought that whole thing was odd. I sent an email through their support site completely filled out and with the issue at that time which was the cables. Part of that form asks for your address which I gave, I got a reply back asking for my address. Which I sent and then some, but I have heard nothing back, maybe that means they are shipping and just haven't sent the tracking info.

I really appreciate everyone's efforts on my behalf, all builds are special in their own way but this one being for my son takes on a deeper meaning for me. Some asked so I can provide more data. The case is a Haf 932 advanced. Haswell gen i7-4770k. I probably oversplurged on the card gtx 780 ftw. Which has its own issues looking at it, it seems, bowed, looking closer it seems more like the internal heat fins are "angle bent" a little. making it look a little bowed out toward the end of the card. I'm hoping that that is just "aesthetics" and nothing more too.

Thank you all very much for any and all help given.
post #1595 of 2795
If I'm understanding you the 'Y' splitter has 2 pins on one side and 3 pins on other? The 3rd pin is rpm. not needed for fans. Only want one fan sending rpm signal.
post #1596 of 2795
I'm considering buying this fantastic air cooler, I wanted to know if I can install it on 4 ram modules ripjaws x g skills, I read that you can move the fan up so as not to interfere with the ram, this solution has some contraindications? (Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3)

smile.gif Sorry for my bad english
Regards
post #1597 of 2795
I believe Ripjaws X are 40mm tall. 14PE has 48mm from bottom fan to motherboard. Fan can be moved up and down on cooler but 40mm RAM and 140mm fan is 180mm from motherboard to side cover.
That translates into needing a case with 174mm CPU clearance for a 140mm fan to fit on top of RAM.

Running with one fan only raises CPU temp 1c.
Second fan can be put on back of cooler instead of front.
post #1598 of 2795
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I believe Ripjaws X are 40mm tall. 14PE has 48mm from bottom fan to motherboard. Fan can be moved up and down on cooler but 40mm RAM and 140mm fan is 180mm from motherboard to side cover.
That translates into needing a case with 174mm CPU clearance for a 140mm fan to fit on top of RAM.

Running with one fan only raises CPU temp 1c.
Second fan can be put on back of cooler instead of front.

he could also put one fan on the opposite side of the ram. the way phanteks recommends you place your fans places the bottom of the fan 38 mm from the base of the heatsink according to the schematic of their website,
but the fan can be raised to accomodate.

you also have to take into account the socket height and how much clearance it adds and the clearance from the top of the fans to the case side panel to know how much you can raise them

ripjaws x is 40mm. you also have to add 1 or 2 mm because the dimm slot itself raises the ram slightly
post #1599 of 2795
heres an odd idea..why not do what noctua did too the d14..
i did it..and no issues...
put a 120 on front
140 in middle..just get matching fans..with a proper y 4pin pwm splitter..alot less hassle than using including splitters....
post #1600 of 2795
Quote:
Originally Posted by X-PREDATOR View Post

heres an odd idea..why not do what noctua did too the d14..
i did it..and no issues...
put a 120 on front
140 in middle..just get matching fans..with a proper y 4pin pwm splitter..alot less hassle than using including splitters....
That would mean 2 new PWM fans and a PWM splitter. Rather expensive solution for 1c improvement in cooling over running just one stock fan. tongue.gif

There are other coolers that will clear RAM if it is an issue... but most are probably end up with same CPU temp as 1 fan on Phanteks or maybe 1c warmer. biggrin.gif

Reality is 1 fan / 2 fans / 3 fans it's more about looks than performance.. even at maximum OC. thumbsupsmiley.png

PH-TC14PE on i7 920 @ 4.00GHz
Passive 60.5c
1x fans 52.75c
2x fans 51.75c
3x fans 50.75c

2 fans@780rpm 55c

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,13.html
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