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post #571 of 2766
I just received my PH-TC14PE :-)



My motherboard (ASRock's Fatal1ty Z77 Professional) has a 3pins and a 4pins for the CPU cooler : is there a reason to use the PWM adapter which came in the package or I have better to connect the fans directly to the non PWM fan header of my motherboard ?
post #572 of 2766
Using the PWM adapter and Y splitter is easiest way to have CPU fans automatically controlled by CPU heat. You can use whatever your motherboard presets are and/or use F-Stream All-in-1 software to view and adjust fan speeds to your liking.
post #573 of 2766
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Originally Posted by lagittaja View Post

Does the PH-TC14PE now ship with the PWM adaptor or do I have to request it separately?
Really difficult to decide what cooler I should get..
Torn between
SA SB-E Extreme for 69.90€ (140mm PWM fans out of the box, crappy fan clips)
D14 for 71.40€ (whiny 120mm fan and no PWM on either fan, great mount)
TC14PE for 69,85€ (have a coupon code to one store biggrin.gif)

They are now shipping with the PWM adapter but did not at first. If anyone did not get one, Phantek will ship you one.
I actually have 2 of them and use the second one for the 3rd fan I purchased.
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post #574 of 2766
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Originally Posted by lagittaja View Post

Does the PH-TC14PE now ship with the PWM adaptor or do I have to request it separately?
Really difficult to decide what cooler I should get..
Torn between
SA SB-E Extreme for 69.90€ (140mm PWM fans out of the box, crappy fan clips)
D14 for 71.40€ (whiny 120mm fan and no PWM on either fan, great mount)
TC14PE for 69,85€ (have a coupon code to one store biggrin.gif)

Yes, you will probably get the PWM adaper in the kit but it depends on where you get it as to how long it has set on seller's shelf. There are still a few out there without the adapter included.

If you get one without PWM, Phanteks will gladly give you one. I have had fantastic customer support requesting information and needed bits. They have sent me 4 PWM adaptors, some needed mounting pads, a replacement cooler and pickup of my defective one totally free, a second tube of TIM with replacement cooler, etc. Great service!
post #575 of 2766
Thank for the answer which don't completely respond to my question as my motherboard's UEFI is able to automaticaly regulate the RPM of the fans through the PWM output AND from the "classic" header.
So in my case I don't understand what advantage PWM could get (it even could use more power than the other header, no ?).
Anyway thank for the answer, I admit I am more afraid to "put" my liquid ultra than the connection of the fans to the motherboard wink.gif
post #576 of 2766
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Thank for the answer which don't completely respond to my question as my motherboard's UEFI is able to automaticaly regulate the RPM of the fans through the PWM output AND from the "classic" header.
So in my case I don't understand what advantage PWM could get (it even could use more power than the other header, no ?).
Anyway thank for the answer, I admit I am more afraid to "put" my liquid ultra than the connection of the fans to the motherboard wink.gif

rolleyes.gif I get enough grief from my wife. And ass you seem offended by my what I did tell you I'll not bother to explain further. Wouldn't want to offend any more and receive more grief. thumb.gif
Edited by doyll - 11/1/12 at 8:05am
post #577 of 2766
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rolleyes.gif I get enough grief from my wife. And ass you seem offended by my what I did tell you I'll not bother to explain further. Wouldn't want to offend any more and receive more grief. thumb.gif

Sorry I didn't see any offense in what you wrote, my question should have been clearer : as in final the fan receive a 3 pins connectors which isn't PWM, the "adapter" will only draw power for nothing as the temperature control is done the same by a simple voltage control from my motherboard.
BUT I am not certain if that's really how that works.
post #578 of 2766
PWM is Pulse-width modulation. Fans run on modulated 12v pulses. Less pulses run fans slower. More run fans faster.

The "PWM Adaptor" Phanteks supplies allows you to you to use normal 3pin fans and control them with the motherboard's CPU_fan 4pin PWM socket using PWM signal to adapter. Maybe it should be called a PWM converter/adapter. Adapter's 4pin PWM plug goes into the motherboard 4pin CPU_fan socket. The supplied "Y" splitter plugs into adapter's 3 pin fan socket and 3pin fans plug into the "Y" splitter. With this setup the fans are controlled by PWM from motherboard.. and you can set the idle temp to fan speed and load temp to fan speed the way you want.

If you want the motherboard to only supply the PWM signal and get power for fans from a PSU molex connector you can use a PWM splitter from Akasa or Gelid. Plug PWM splitter into motherboard, the PWM adapter (with Y splitter and fans) into CPU fan plug on PWM splitter, molex power plug to PSU. If you want other PWM fans to run with same signal as Phanteks fan you can plug them into other PWM splitter sockets. But I won't guaranty they will run at same rpm.

On my own system all fans are PWM and all are controlled by motherboard CPU_fan socket using Gelid PWM fan splitters. These splitters use a 4 pin molex to supply power and motherboard PWM socket to supply PWM signal.
Edited by doyll - 11/2/12 at 7:05am
post #579 of 2766
smile.gif We don't understand each other, probably because my english is very poor.

I know what PWM and the like works...
With my H100 and it's two Noctua NF-F12 I tried to put them in the PWM CPU_fan PWM which worked perfectly with UEFI control, and then I also tried to put them into the CPU_fan which is a non PWM fan, also with automatic UEFI control of the CPU temperature and I observed more or less the same RPM of the fans in each case.

Off course the Noctua's fan are "directly" PWM's fan where the Phanteks fan aren't, so in my case it might just be better to simply connect them to the non PWM CPU_fan of my motherboard.

I can't find any information if there is a difference in power consumption at same rpm from those fan if run through PWM (with adapter) or directly.

Anyway thank for your answer smile.gif
post #580 of 2766
I think the power consumption will be the same or very close to same.
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