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Black is beautiful! thumb.gif
As for your top fans.
I run 2x 140 front and 1 bottom intake and no exhaust fans. I cut out the grille in the back vent and make a simple duct between cooler and back. Sides and top made out of an old file folder and rattle-can black. wink.gif The fans set low enough on my RAM to move air under cooler and cool mobo heatsinks. I/O plate is out for better air escape too. No top or back fans. In fact I tried both with and without top vents open and closed (Define R2 has sound panels for top) with no difference in temps so the are installed now.

It's all out of case at the moment. If you want more pics info let me know.
Thanks Doyll! I like your duct idea...I'll see if I can come up with something similar. I'm guessing I should remove my 2x 140mm top exhaust fans. I also want to get 3 corsair AF140 fans...two as intake on the front of my case and maybe one at the bottom as intake as well.
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When you get it installed post a pic and Ill add you to the members list
Thanks AMD_Freak! I'll do so once I install it!
Edited by Airrick10 - 12/6/12 at 7:29am
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looks good to me doyll
Thanks.

Just don't look at the right side. rolleyes.gif
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hey doyll so you switched the heatsink to poor out the back? did you see temp differences from when it was out of the top?

and also AMD here is some pictures of mine, I don't see my name on the members list biggrin.gif

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hey doyll so you switched the heatsink to poor out the back? did you see temp differences from when it was out of the top?
None I can read in 1 degree increments. wink.gif But exhaust was ducted out top and now out back..

My biggest problem heat. Not too much heat. I can't make it get hot! mad.gif As I type this ambient into cooler is 21c and exhaust is 25c. CPU is reading 15-26-22-23-26-22c in OHM and 15-25-22-22-26-22c in HWM with fans @ 660rpm mad.gif CPU load is 0-3% so nothing happening, but even under 80-100% load temps are 40-46-43-42-48-43c max. @ 950rpm. It's setting on the bench at the moment but in case is about same with fans a little faster @ 700rpm idle and 1050rpm load. Doesn't take much dust in filters to raise idle temps 1-2c. Basically the fans at idle are spinning so slow they have almost no static pressure so even the slightest resistance affects airflow.

I'm good at cooling and airflow stuff but know nothing about overclocking so haven't even tried it on this 980... and it does same jobs my 920 @ 4.0GHz did in 15 minutes in 10 minutes now so no need to overclock.

Love your build! That really looks good!

How much clearance do you have between bottom of case and desktop? What are you temps and fan speeds please?
Edited by doyll - 12/7/12 at 1:27am
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Which one would you guys choose between the white one and the red one ?
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You gotta choose your own color. rolleyes.gif
I know life can be hard but sometimes you just gotta make your own choices. thumb.gif

I'm using red TC14PE with Thermalright TY-143 red fan housing / orange fan 2500rpm PWM biggrin.gif

White is a normal silver aluminum cooler. Only the fans are white.
All others are colored coolers.

White = PH-TC14PE is silver cooler with white fan housing/white fan
Red = PH-TC14PE_RD is red cooler with white fan housing /red fan
Black = PH-TC14PE_BK is black cooler with white fan housing/black fan
Orange = PH-TC14PE_OR is orange cooler with white fan housing/orange fan
Blue = PH-TC14PE_BL is blue cooler with white fan housing/blue fan
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None I can read in 1 degree increments. wink.gif But exhaust was ducted out top and now out back..
My biggest problem heat. Not too much heat. I can't make it get hot! mad.gif As I type this ambient into cooler is 21c and exhaust is 25c. CPU is reading 15-26-22-23-26-22c in OHM and 15-25-22-22-26-22c in HWM with fans @ 660rpm mad.gif CPU load is 0-3% so nothing happening, but even under 80-100% load temps are 40-46-43-42-48-43c max. @ 950rpm. It's setting on the bench at the moment but in case is about same with fans a little faster @ 700rpm idle and 1050rpm load. Doesn't take much dust in filters to raise idle temps 1-2c. Basically the fans at idle are spinning so slow they have almost no static pressure so even the slightest resistance affects airflow.
I'm good at cooling and airflow stuff but know nothing about overclocking so haven't even tried it on this 980... and it does same jobs my 920 @ 4.0GHz did in 15 minutes in 10 minutes now so no need to overclock.
Love your build! That really looks good!
How much clearance do you have between bottom of case and desktop? What are you temps and fan speeds please?

Thanks! yea its actually in a spot where I really like it, but I still am considering stuffing into a prodigy case (of course bringing the phanteks along) but it will be hard to ditch the raven. the cable management is so good its almost cheating.

I see what you mean, not having dust is great. I don't know the exact measurement from case to desk, but it has a good 25-35 mm I would guess. I will get you the exact measurement when I am at home. There are also two big magnetic dust filters under there, and they work really well. I have the two 180 case fans on their low setting (as apposed to high, there are only two) and they are pretty much inaudible. Then the phanteks fans are running at %100. They actually don't make a lot of noise outside of the case so I just keep them cranking. there is also a 120 right above the phanteks exhausting, its highest speed makes no noise.

My 3570k is running at 4.4 (nice and solid, I had about a three day folding spree with no crashes) and it idles in the 30's, games in the 50's, and prime maxes it out usually in the mid 60's. Edit: forgot to say these are winter temps smile.gif the house stays in the low 20s c as apposed to close to 30s in the summer.

I definitely don't know a whole lot about air cooling. I'm just using the stock setup of the raven, and its keeping my stuff very cool. the cards are both overclocked 560's they usually produce some heat, but they are running as cool as they ever have in this case. My only problem is probably they dump a lot of heat into the case and the only fan exhausting is that 120 above the phanteks. I could mount a 120 on the back of the case pulling air out, but it would sit so close to the bottom card, I think it would fight it for air.
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I know your neck of the woods! Lived in that area for many years and loved it back then. Too many people now. But still beautiful!

Sounds like a well thought out system.thumb.gif

I use a basic rule of thumb of the fan surface area need equal cylindrical area of fan circumference X distance away from flat surface.
140mm fan area = 154
cylinder intake area =140 x 3.14 x 30 (clearance) = 154

Two fans side by side in bottom is different
fan area = 308
But area between fans isn't intake now so intake area is an oval; 2 straight sided 140 each and half a circle on each end
(140 x 3.14 + 280) x 50 (clearance = 360

You can deduct the area in middle of fan where motor is but we are not considering the friction of turning air 90 degrees either so it kinda balances out.
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I know your neck of the woods! Lived in that area for many years and loved it back then. Too many people now. But still beautiful!
Sounds like a well thought out system.thumb.gif
I use a basic rule of thumb of the fan surface area need equal cylindrical area of fan circumference X distance away from flat surface.
140mm fan area = 154
cylinder intake area =140 x 3.14 x 30 (clearance) = 154
Two fans side by side in bottom is different
fan area = 308
But area between fans isn't intake now so intake area is an oval; 2 straight sided 140 each and half a circle on each end
(140 x 3.14 + 280) x 50 (clearance = 360
You can deduct the area in middle of fan where motor is but we are not considering the friction of turning air 90 degrees either so it kinda balances out.

well the fans on the bottom are both 180mm. so your saying it needs even more space between case and desk?

O and thanks for the compliments and yea I like it here so far I came from small town so this last year of living here has been an experience thumb.gif
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A lot depends on how fast you run them but yeah. A 180mm fan need 45mm and 2 side by side need 55mm. That will keep them from drawing too much of a vacuum. If you can hear them more space will probably quiet them down too. Easy to experiment. Steal 4 of the neighbor's little boy's wooden blocks. If everything is cool and quiet don't worry.
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