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Originally Posted by xxicrimsonixx View Post
The LEDs and acrylic window are a little excessive. However, the quad core is not. Wouldn't sound pretty much sound better if there was an individual processor covering each part of the music. One covers the audio, one covers the positioning, one covers bass, and one to control the other three so that they are all working in unison. That sounds like a potentially amazing sound card. Especially with someone like Creative behind this, can't go wrong I don't think.
Well for starters, microprocessors have never been known for producing high quality audio.

Secondly, why on earth do you need "one for audio, and one for bass"? Bass IS audio, its just a lower frequency than you ears can hear properly. It is and SHOULD BE processed in-line with any other audio. There's no reason to chop up the spectrum just to reassemble it later, adding in more latency and distortion with no benefit.

Furthermore, software 3D positioning is gimmicky at best. I've yet to hear a soundcard which can do it right. If you don't have surround sound, you don't have surround sound. Just deal with it. The only time this is remotely useful is in 3D games, 99% of which have built in versions that make processing it on your soundcard pointless and unhelpful. Why do we need to dedicate a processor to this?

And the 4th processor to rule them all? Wouldn't be needed if you didn't have 2 other blatantly unnecessary chips to begin with.

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I believe it is better to do so. The cowon S9 contains two individual cores for each channel by my understanding.
Sure, the Cowon S9 processes each channel separately. That's a somewhat decent idea although ultimately it makes little difference.

So... lets assume that is the route creative is going... Since when did people start buying 4 channel setups again? They weren't even popular when they did exist.

Nope. That is NOT what creative is going for here, obviously. So again, unless they can explain the need for 3 additional cores, this is just a BS marketing ploy.
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this is stupid
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Originally Posted by Riou View Post
Can anyone make out what caps they used on the PCB?

Nope, but looks cool
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Well for starters, microprocessors have never been known for producing high quality audio.
Not quite sure what you mean by this.

If it's digital at any point, there was almost certainly a microprocessor involved.
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I have a feeling the Titanium HD will still sound better :\\
Let's hope so... I've only owned this for three months.
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Can anyone make out what caps they used on the PCB?

The black one closest to the PCI-e contacts looks like Capxon to me.
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I cringe every time some company tacks on the "3D" buzzword.
Lol same, the only thing to make it worse is to add a bunch of X's and a lowercase "i" at the beginning
    
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Its a Quartet DSP chip, been part of the x-fi line for years, never been marketed as "4 core" though.
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Asus, Sennheiser, HT Omega, just counting ones on Newegg that make quality kit. A couple dozen entry level offerings. Not to mention Realtek.


And i do beleive that some of those are based on Creative Chips aren't they?

And RealTek doesn't make any dedicated cards that i know of, only integrated stuff, which don't really actually do much these days (all of the audio processing is actually done by your CPU with integrated audio)

I still love my trusty old XtremeGamer. maybe i will look into this card.....
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Same thing different name. What is up with Creative these days? Look at those mickey mouse outputs. The Titanium HD is inferior, connectivity wise that the STX, and these look inferior than the Titanium HD.





 
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