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I'm only defending OCZ as there aren't many people chiming in saying "My drive works great" and there are tons of people here that can vouch for it. It's basically just me, though... you get more people reporting how bad the drive is because of a firmware issue, and no love about the drive before 2.06 or after 2.08
The drive was great before 2.06, except for many people including myself it turned into a useless piece of crap the moment they released their first firmware update and not only did we have to wait months for a "fix", 2.09 noticeably slowed down our drives. Not to mention that we can't even update our firmware to 2.11 since many many users started getting crashes again and who knows when they'll release a stable firmware that doesn't slow down the drive?????

Plus, OCZ has piss poor, dishonest customer service and treat their customers like garbage.


Here is one of the many many ways they treat their customers like dirt:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post676742


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Originally Posted by Tweak [MODERATOR]
Please elaborate how this is helpful to the OP. You may find this section HERE more fitting for what's on your heart.

Any further posting in the same manner will be moved to said section for the sake of the OP and others in a similar situation looking for help. This is a support forum where all the staff involved are here to help out users as best we can. The actual makers of the drives, whom you are partially addressing, are not likely to be found here. Please respect the forum rules, and refrain from using this, or any other support thread, for your complaints.

You are entitled to complain, and speak your heart, but please do so in the appropriate section.


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The fact is that this drive is a total piece of junk. I, like all the other suckers who bought one of these drives, have wasted not just the money I've spent on this drive, but also the money I've spent on the rest of my machine as it reduces an computer to an unstable piece of junk. The only fix there is is to remove the drive from the system.

Telling people that there is something that they can do to fix their drive at the moment is totally disingenuous as this thread: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...-Solid3-drives states quite clearly that OCZ don't know why the drive causes BSODs and don't know how to fix it. All you are doing is wasting people's time getting them to jump through hoops so that they feel like they are doing something, thus deflecting attention from the real issue, which is that the drive is currently unsuitable as an operating system drive for anyone who wants a stable system.

"The actual makers of the drives, whom you are partially addressing, are not likely to be found here." yeah, really? No one who makes this drive ever browses the support forums? Oh yeah actually you are right because they clearly couldn't care less about their customers.

Telling people to "turn off TRIM" is just stupid. Why buy a high performance drive and then say that to use it you need to switch off one of the drive's main performance features? That is simply masking the problem. Why not just run Windows in safe mode? Maybe that would help.

As such I totally stand by the advice I gave the OP, when I said "According to the makers of the drive there is no fix for [it's instability] apart from getting a hard disk from a company that aren't a bunch of clowns and using that instead." and I think that was significantly more useful that your advice.
Brian Tyler: I am giving you an infraction for your unacceptable and repeatedly violation of the forum rules, even after being warned. One more violation, and you are under moderation or banned.

Please do not use agressive language, as this forum is open to all people of all ages.

The tread is closed until further notice.

This is exactly how OCZ deals with hard questions and statements, by threatening to ban anyone who makes "aggressive lanuage", no matter how truthful or justified it is. People are sick and tired of having this problem and OCZ's not doing anything support-wise to help, all they're doing is diverting the blame and exaggerating numbers by saying it's only a small problem affecting 1% of the drives, LMAO.

They've done crap like this from the start, telling us to follow 3000 different steps to fix this problem knowing full well themselves that they don't know what the problem is or how to solve it. Even now every new user that asks for help they pretend to give them a bunch of advice that 99% of the time doesn't work anyway just so they can "appear" to be helpful.
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post #32 of 86
Hey monkey, I have to take issue with ocz support as well.

I go there everyday to lurk, I've stopped posting and here's why. A fellow member posted about his v3 being stable with new firmware after one week and he was all happy thanking ocz. Support staff chimed in with a happy to help or something like that. Then he gets a bsod a couple days later and asks for help on a Thursday morning. He waits a day and posts a reply again. Nothing. I bumped his thread a couple times pleading for a support forum member to help him and nothing happened.

Sick of seeing people post looking for help with bsod and support staff does not reply.
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post #33 of 86
So is the BSOD and freezing correctable with a firmware update? If so, I think I'll hold out to see if the problem is fixable
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So is the BSOD and freezing correctable with a firmware update? If so, I think I'll hold out to see if the problem is fixable
Yes and no. Firmware updates have worked for some but for many others they have not.

Sandforce is readying another firmware for release soon. Maybe 2.13 will finally do the trick 6 months after initial release of the drives.
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There were plenty of instances of bsod on 2.02 Balsaga. It was rumored that 2.06 started the bsod problem until people with 2.02 chimed in on the ocz website to report they were getting bsod with 2.02 as well.

2.09 was better for stability but speed was reduced. My 4k scores in as-ssd were below what OCZ advertised for the drive.

So realistically, 2.11 is the only firmware one could claim to love the drive with. That's assuming they have no issues. But I'm guessing that's not the case because of what Tony posted today.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...applies-to-you

That's right. OCZ is getting more and more people being fed up and asking for refunds. How could a "small minority" of users cause enough problems for him to post that?
Oh wow. I am beyond tempted right now. My case has a hot-swappable top bay for cloning drives, too. If this works for people and they actually get a refund then I might just order a new SSD and clone it before I send the 3 series back.

Was running 2.06 with BSODs every 2 hours until I moved the page file to my HDD. After that it was 3 weeks until my next BSOD: F4 again. Then it was F4 about once per day.

Upgrade to 2.11, everything's peachy... for about four days. Now I get the usual 1-2 F4 BSODs per day.

And let me just clarify I did follow all of OCZs instructions for upgrading firmware. Secure erase and everything. It took two days to have everything reconfigured, so please don't say I wasn't willing to follow all the steps to ensure smooth operation.
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post #36 of 86
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So is the BSOD and freezing correctable with a firmware update?
no one knows, they dont know what the issue is. they have had teams of people not only at SF, but at individual manufacturers, looking into this.
You cant fix a problem you cant identify.
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I have a 120GB Force GT. Everything is working great.
If there is an issue. when i can expect the drive to fail?
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I have a 120GB Force GT. Everything is working great.
If there is an issue. when i can expect the drive to fail?
Hard to say. Took me 3 weeks to have my first problem.

You may not have a problem at all. It's hit and miss.
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Well. It's time to wait, i think.
What was your problem. if you mind if i ask?
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Was running 2.06 with BSODs every 2 hours until I moved the page file to my HDD. After that it was 3 weeks until my next BSOD: F4 again. Then it was F4 about once per day.
That is really odd. It is almost as if something degraded along the way, probably not the hardware but something about garbage collection, trim or some other firmware/data aspect?
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