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9/12/11 at 2:38pm
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I know this has been asked before but most of the other threads pertain to 3D performance only. I'm not interested in 3D as I find it gimmicky. I am in the market for a new 120HZ monitor and I've read bad things about all top contenders so I want some opinions from everyone here at OCN. My priority is color reproduction and image quality over Stereo 3D.

The big-dogs here would probably be:
Planar SA2311W
BenQ XL2410T
Alienware AW2310 OptX

Are there any other recommended models? What do people say about general 120HZ gaming/desktop use with the Planar as the only real review on it is from 3D-Desktop.

Thanks in advance!
Edited by Tkmstr1009 - 9/12/11 at 2:45pm
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9/12/11 at 2:42pm
I'm using the aw2310 and I love it. Color accuracy and vibrance is pretty decent for a TN panel, you just have to tweak it a bit and you're set. I also love the stand for this thing. It's really sturdy, and it has height adjustment which is a plus, just not as much as the xl2410t. I think it was worth the purchase, but if you don't want to spend $400, then there are obviously cheaper options. Comes with USB ports as well, but if you don't need them, then whatever. It's nice to have them there though. I also really like the matte finish. There are two windows right behind where I game, but I get absolutely no reflections. There is some backlight bleed, but really minimal on the sides in a dark scene in a movie or game.
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9/12/11 at 2:47pm
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Yeah I heard the AW2310 was a solid choice but with newer panels out like Planar + it's price it's a tough pill to swallow... I mean $450 for even a 120HZ monitor is a crazy. Gonna have to sell it to me real hard bro...

REALLY leaning towards the Planar, but my only hesitation comes from a general lack of info surrounding it's performance since nobody have really reviewed it.
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9/12/11 at 6:16pm
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Just to add on- does the Planar have issues with backlight bleeding?
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9/12/11 at 10:45pm

Just letting you know that the Acer GD235HZ has been getting great reviews and has a great feature set. It's got 120Hz like you want along with 2ms response time, among other goodies. Yeah, it has 3D, but it's not like you have to use it. It's actually a cheaper option than the monitors you mentioned in the OP, as well. Definitely a winner in my book.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009222

EDIT: Here's the Amazon link because it's out of stock at Newegg.

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9/12/11 at 10:48pm
I have the BenQ. I've read about the backlight bleeding but I don't notice it. As far as pure gaming performance goes, it's definitely a winner. Picture looks fine to me but I am not picky (I'm the kind of guy who goes minimal detail to maximize FPS/visibility). I play quakelive for the record, sort of the ultimate twitch game.

My LG improved a solid 7 or 8% when I switched from a POS LCD that had tearing issues as well as aim with other guns.
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9/13/11 at 1:54am
AW2310 is garbage as far as I'm concerned. Its accelerated response time is only active when running the multimedia or gaming color presets, both of which look bad compared to custom rgb. Plus, both presets have auto-adjusting brightness/contrast hard-coded in even if you have dynamic contrast turned off. If you use custom rgb, then you have to deal with a slow response time which, for me, was very noticeable. I can easily see the difference between 2 and 5ms. If you can't, then this may not be an issue for you. Also, the back-light bleed on the two I was using was noticeable and unevenly distributed.

BenQ's color and black levels are noticeably below average/bad, it's panel uniformity is horrible, and it suffers from reverse ghosting. Backlight bleed was very minimal and not noticeable.

Acer GD235HZ should never be recommended as it's a fail monitor. 17ms input lag, meaning a full frame of lag. Also has issues with its overdrive causing over-sharpening. Failure.

Have yet to try the Planar, but it sounds like a pretty good monitor. Reports of bad backlight bleed worries me though. I made a thread requesting information from owners, but no replies http://www.overclock.net/monitors-di...1w-owners.html
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9/13/11 at 8:24am
i tried the benq yesterday at computer shop, screen was fast, smooth but very dull colors, and model in the store had 3 dead pixels, not a great sign. i did like the matte compared to the new samsung one though
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9/13/11 at 8:31am
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Just letting you know that the Acer GD235HZ has been getting great reviews and has a great feature set. It's got 120Hz like you want along with 2ms response time, among other goodies. Yeah, it has 3D, but it's not like you have to use it. It's actually a cheaper option than the monitors you mentioned in the OP, as well. Definitely a winner in my book.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009222

EDIT: Here's the Amazon link because it's out of stock at Newegg.

Amazon.com: Acer GD235HZbid Widescreen 23.6" 3D LCD Display: Computers & Accessories
+1 For the Acer, this is my monitor, it only has one issue and that its max brightness is a little behind the ASUS (when side by side.) Thats max brightness. There is a little bleeding, but you rarely notice it. Its non glossy too, which I REALLY REALLY REALLY like. I hate gloss. I also read the initial batch of Asus monitors had a tendency to line-pixelate, causing a lot of bad reviews at release, but Asus did good on their replacement policy, and fixed it so you should be good to go.

There is one downside to the Acer though, the stand can be a little weak, and it can also has a yucky orange color scheme that my GF loves but doesn't match Black/Blue Led/White watercooling tubing XD

As far as quality goes, all these TN's are (essentially) the same, however, if I am not mistaken there is an LG IPS 120HZ monitor coming out, or just came out.

Nobody can argue that IPS is a better quality than TN, and it has a matching response time so there is no negative to it.
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9/13/11 at 8:35am
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+1 For the Acer, this is my monitor, it only has one issue and that its max brightness is a little behind the ASUS (when side by side.) Thats max brightness. There is a little bleeding, but you rarely notice it. Its non glossy too, which I REALLY REALLY REALLY like. I hate gloss. I also read the initial batch of Asus monitors had a tendency to line-pixelate, causing a lot of bad reviews at release, but Asus did good on their replacement policy, and fixed it so you should be good to go.

There is one downside to the Acer though, the stand can be a little weak, and it can also has a yucky orange color scheme that my GF loves but doesn't match Black/Blue Led/White watercooling tubing XD

As far as quality goes, all these TN's are (essentially) the same, however, if I am not mistaken there is an LG IPS 120HZ monitor coming out, or just came out.

Nobody can argue that IPS is a better quality than TN, and it has a matching response time so there is no negative to it.
Somebody in this thread mentioned that the Acer had terrible input lag, though, which I was unaware of when I first recommended it. He said it had 17ms of input lag, trailing by more than a frame. I didn't check to see if he was right or not, but if it's true, I'm pretty sure that that would be enough for me to look elsewhere...
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