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What an interesting tournament so far at Manila. PGL production has been great, crowd has been really good and EG and Secret finishing in the dumpster.
FYI Zai has been playing for Kaipi the past couple weeks and there are rumors that he left the team today. He is listed as an official sub for EG so if they switched Zai for Bulba they wouldnt have to play in the open qualifiers. The other possible scenario would be Zai to secret Universe back to EG.

To top things off we get El Classico Navi vs Alliance in a BO3 in the loser bracket, there was over 2 million viewers watching including all of the twitch streams, youtube and the Chinese streams.


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Aui was kicked, universe and zai to EG and bulba to secret. Now if valve does the right thing the rules say that EG and Secret will have to play in the open qualifiers for TI6.
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Originally Posted by redalert View Post

Aui was kicked, universe and zai to EG and bulba to secret. Now if valve does the right thing the rules say that EG and Secret will have to play in the open qualifiers for TI6.

Aui kicked AGAIN?
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This compendium is bullsh.. This recalibration is a complete lie. It is not a recalibration at all. It places you in 10 matches at your current MMR.

I'm just pissed because I've been playing on my account for like.. i don't know.. 3-4 years. I can't even remember how long ago beta was released. Anyway, I've always been average 3.5k MMR.. The highest I had reached was 4k.. But I swear the hidden pool is real and I'm in it. Since the last patch I've done nothing but lose lose lose. I've plummeted to 2600 MMR because I get nothing but idiots on my team who feed, play like trash, pick stupid line ups... always picking trash heroes like Alchemist and AM every game... Do stupid sh like thinking Tinker doesn't need to upgrade Dagon past lvl 2 and rushing Radiance on Void with boots of speed... Then all the constant trash play leads to my own demise in gameplay and even when I try my hardest to win, my team is just a distaster.

So I recalibrate and it just places me in games at my same MMR and gives me the same MMR...

So i create my first smurf and dominate my first couple games which then places me in a proper hidden MMR where I actually get competent team mates who know how to play, but yet all of the enemies are competent players as well and I've won probably 70% of my games and will probably get placed in at least 3500 MMR after I reach high enough lvl to calibrate.

I bought this stupid compendium and I'm not even playing the damn account.

Further more, F these quests... These quests are ruining matches. This is not a quest game... I don't need team mates picking heroes for ulterior reasons and trying to complete some stupid task in the game. I need team mates picking and playing to win.
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This compendium is bullsh.. This recalibration is a complete lie. It is not a recalibration at all. It places you in 10 matches at your current MMR.

I'm just pissed because I've been playing on my account for like.. i don't know.. 3-4 years. I can't even remember how long ago beta was released. Anyway, I've always been average 3.5k MMR.. The highest I had reached was 4k.. But I swear the hidden pool is real and I'm in it. Since the last patch I've done nothing but lose lose lose. I've plummeted to 2600 MMR because I get nothing but idiots on my team who feed, play like trash, pick stupid line ups... always picking trash heroes like Alchemist and AM every game... Do stupid sh like thinking Tinker doesn't need to upgrade Dagon past lvl 2 and rushing Radiance on Void with boots of speed... Then all the constant trash play leads to my own demise in gameplay and even when I try my hardest to win, my team is just a distaster.

So I recalibrate and it just places me in games at my same MMR and gives me the same MMR...

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I bought this stupid compendium and I'm not even playing the damn account.

Further more, F these quests... These quests are ruining matches. This is not a quest game... I don't need team mates picking heroes for ulterior reasons and trying to complete some stupid task in the game. I need team mates picking and playing to win.

Glad I didn't buy it. I am 3.3k-3.6k for years until last 2 years. now down to 2.2k. Really there isn't really a difference in MMR from 3k to 2k pubs. There's only a honest spike prob. at 3.0k people start warding and at, 3.5k the games are easier since people give up faster or know it's over.

All my friends that bought it, got re-calibrated lower than their current MMR. I think one was party 3.5k recalibrated to 2.9k. One was 4.1k recalibrated at 3.2k mmr, so yea until they fix forced 50% and weeding out people with bad internet and smurfs the MMR system is broken I'd rather have a league system. Where people get vouched in or out depending how bad they do.
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I think we all knew deep down that the compendium was bull.

I went from 3.8 to 2.8. I've seen quite a bit of difference. Even between 3 and 2.8k. But then again they may just be on their "off"heroes.

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Congrats to OG for winning the Manila Majors.

LINK: http://esports.inquirer.net/15630/og-wins-manila-major

That Sven and Wraith Knight picks came out of nowhere. tongue.gif
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im kind of surprised by the reactions from all of you.

I bought the compendium solely for the purpose of re-calibration. Upon the first few games I already feel like I'm getting much better games than before. Carries are always at least semi-competent. People dont get (too) mad if they are left to be supports, and often perform pretty well.

I went 7-3 after 10 games. Almost 8-2, but, gotta have bad games with selfish players right? Went from 2.9~3k to 3.3k.

It wasn't as high as I wanted (my games feel like they are 3.4-3.6 from my past experience in that bracket), but it was improvement regardless (and it totally makes sense after @defhed talked about it. I won 4 extra games, roughly ~400MMR increase?)


I do notice a drop in quality of the games recently. They go back to looking like 2.9k games where carries always pick first, always 3 melee heros in a row, solo 5th pick support almost every game. But if you only focus strictly on the re-calibration itself, I don't think it's that bad. In most of the games during the calibration about 2 weeks ago, you can tell the players actually care about winning and play to what the team needs (it will only get worse from now as most ppl finished re-cal already)
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