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Damn :O
Any chance your giving it away if you don't want to play it? biggrin.gif

Giving it away? Sorry, that'd be a continuation of the good will that got me the game, but if I can trade it for anything, I will. I know it's a game a lot of people love, so if I can get something I want for it, then surely. tongue.gif
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Played Warcraft III a lot but never really liked Dota because of the learning curve and getting items was too difficult for me. Just started playing Dota 2 and it much easier but still get owned when i get double or tripled teamed.
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Played Warcraft III a lot but never really liked Dota because of the learning curve and getting items was too difficult for me. Just started playing Dota 2 and it much easier but still get owned when i get double or tripled teamed.

I suggest two things that helped me out a ton, I was in the same boat as you about a month and a half ago having never gotten into DotA because of the steep learning curve.

1. Playing against bots, helps you to learn how and when to use your skills correctly and how to properly last hit (this is so huge as around 70% of people I get matched with right now are horrible at last hitting)

2. Watch VoDs of pros playing and take note of how they do item builds, where they position themselves in lanes, how they use their heroes to teamfight/gank/initiate.


One final note, find a hero or two you like playing a lot and use those in actual matches while you practice with new heroes against bots.
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To add to that try playing support heroes first and get used to heroes by playing with bots like Lokster pointed out that really does help a lot.
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Really Liked playing with Razer today.
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Really Liked playing with Razer today.

Razer is a carry/tanky hero, good hero. Why don't you play with something like vengeful spirit, crystal maiden.

Btw my first hero was Lich biggrin.gif
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I just noticed that Brewmaster's sound set includes vocal MIAs. Makes it seem like they'll either add bot MIA calls or MIA hotkeys sometime.
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everytime ill try to play i get this
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Wasn't expecting Pandaren to be added.. oh well...
Anyways what are your thoughts on the matchmaking system? I think it needs a lot of tweaking as in a newbie needs to be grouped with a newbie and an average player with an average player and so on. It gets pretty annoying when the next team is good while two out of five in your team have only just started DotA.

Noobs do generally get placed with noobs etc. I pretty much always get matched with players that have 200+ wins. Just last night I played a game where the enemy team had a combined ~2200 wins.
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Trust me there are A LOT of people who simply don't respond if you try to teach em (I've tried). It starts getting really annoying when every other minute you hear "ABC player was PWNED by XYZ for 400 gold" "XYZ is Beyond GOD-LIKE" e.t.c

Don't bother unless it is a friend or player in a game that is actually asking to learn. It isn't worth the trouble otherwise.
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Played Warcraft III a lot but never really liked Dota because of the learning curve and getting items was too difficult for me. Just started playing Dota 2 and it much easier but still get owned when i get double or tripled teamed.

The learning curve is still there but some mechanics of the game are easier to use like you mentioned. Dota seriously has the biggest learn curve of any game out there that I can think of. Even years after playing you can still find ways to improve.

As far as getting double triple teamed goes (getting ganked), you need map awareness. For example if you are in the middle lane by yourself and you do not see any enemy heroes on the minimap it is probably a good idea to backup until you find out where they are. This kind of awareness generally comes with time and experience. You'll be able to glance quickly at the minimap and have a good idea of what is going on.
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I just noticed that Brewmaster's sound set includes vocal MIAs. Makes it seem like they'll either add bot MIA calls or MIA hotkeys sometime.

Wow that is interesting. At first I thought what the heck they are making the game easier but not really. You will still have to hit a hotkey to call missing heroes.
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everytime ill try to play i get this
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That happens once in a while, they are probably just working on the servers. If you restart Steam and Dota and it still doesn't work, just let it go for a little while and come back.
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If you guys wanna get better in dota 2, just read guides, then go change the recommended items in the game by clicking the "pencil" button, that would help a tons (unless you guys wanna use the search box while in lane) personally I don't think watching pros VoDs would make yourself better, simply because there is a huge gap of knowledge between the two, just play play and play, maybe after 100 hours you will have a positive win/loss ratio.
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