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Felt good. lolz were had. Bane wasn't too happy though. I bought him a new one to make up for it.
He didn't want it.
LOL,You should try hiding a Divine between trees and watch every one in the map searching for it xD
     
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LOL,You should try hiding a Divine between trees and watch every one in the map searching for it xD

Easter dota 2 event: Try to find a divine and get a win instantly
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It's greyed out. Can't select it.

If you mean "solo practice", it's not implemented yet. You should be able to select "find a co-op bot match" which is 5 players vs 5 bots. The other option is making a private lobby and filling it with AI. For either, make sure to set the difficulty.
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Shameless bump.
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is item unlocking completely random? i'm assuming you can't get a chest when you level up either right? and there's no way to get a key without buying them?
 

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is item unlocking completely random? i'm assuming you can't get a chest when you level up either right? and there's no way to get a key without buying them?

 

Yeah they are completely random, sometimes you end up with commons sometimes you end up with rares. Don't think you get a chest when you level up. You can trade your rare/mythical items for keys in the trade channel.
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what is this "item unlocking" and "keys" you guys are talking about?

anyway, a little bit about myself :

I played dota original back when I was in college until roughly 1 year I graduated. Those were probably year 04-09. Quit it for another MMO that I played for a year, then I got new PC, got to know about steam and so on. Won a freebie right here at OCN that granted me the dota 2 access. Played 1 game and found that well, it wasn't all that different, and I stopped playing again.

2 weeks ago I started getting back into it, got kind of familiar with the buy / sell system now, so far so good. I dont quite recognize all the character models, can't quite stand the "artistic" style of graphics either, but I can foresee myself playing this game on and off given these points that I dont really like. It's the MOBA style that keeps getting me. It is my type of team FPS game (I can't play FPS games because I get dizzy)


To my surprise, this little game takes quite some power to run, my new laptop with i5-3210m and 640m can't even get 40fps stable. Thats ridiculously demanding.


I can see that most of the old items were transferred, some were given new games which I really can't get used to still lol. One thing I REALLY dont like is that Heart's regen is now DISABLED when you get hit by enemy heros? can you honestly tell me the point of getting a heart with this change in effect? I mean...it used to have 1% regen, and that's 30/sec if you have 3k, it help tons in battles
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One thing I REALLY dont like is that Heart's regen is now DISABLED when you get hit by enemy heros? can you honestly tell me the point of getting a heart with this change in effect? I mean...it used to have 1% regen, and that's 30/sec if you have 3k, it help tons in battles

I agree so much with this. To me, it's a waste to get it when the main benefit is regen...............outside of battle. What good is that? Seem like I could items that gives regen as well as another ability instead of it. Totally lost its purpose.
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One thing I REALLY dont like is that Heart's regen is now DISABLED when you get hit by enemy heros? can you honestly tell me the point of getting a heart with this change in effect? I mean...it used to have 1% regen, and that's 30/sec if you have 3k, it help tons in battles

Q: Why did you remove the combat regeneration from Heart of Tarrasque? (from Florian)

A: It was a very specific choice to completely remove combat regeneration from it rather than just reduce it. While it was a nerf, that wasn't the primary goal. The problem with trying to measure the value of regeneration on Heart is that it makes your success in a fight depend at least partially on how long the fight lasts. The core issue is more about what it promotes rather than it allowing you to survive. It encourages the wrong things and doesn't reward players who make better moment to moment decisions as much as it could. It removes some depth from the game and makes it a little less interesting over all. If the item needs a certain amount of tanking power, it is much more direct to add more hit point bonus to the item instead of doing it via a method that obscures the ability to measure the balance of the item.

This is more about the design philosophy the item should have, rather than its actual numbers or power, since I consider those as solvable problems if you have the right design to start with. In general, I prefer to lean towards creating a situation of long term solvability to issues. Some things might be knowingly imperfect but done in a manner that increases measurability to allow it to settle in a better place in the long run.

TLDR: The main purpose was to balance the game since Necro/Krob were pretty much unkillable when they got HoT.
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I agree so much with this. To me, it's a waste to get it when the main benefit is regen...............outside of battle. What good is that? Seem like I could items that gives regen as well as another ability instead of it. Totally lost its purpose.

Read the post above. Heart was imba and did reward players with a huge amount of survivability simply for having the item instead of the player needing to make good decisions in team fights to survive longer. It was so strong that you would see it on every hero in every game that lasted longer than 30 minutes. (Which was the norm back then, I used to be in 60+ minute games regularly. Heart + buyable Aegis with 3 charges = 100 minute games) And Heart is still really strong. You can leave a battle for a few minutes to regen a few hundred hp and jump back in.
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