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What are you trying to say? Those that stick to 5 since 8 min in are not try hards? Those that gang 1 person as 4 are not try hards?
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Playing the game as a team is try hard? Wining the game is try hard? Guess I am playing the game for the wrong reason.
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just wondering, why do/did people go double shields on Axe? is it still viable? and should any other heroes? and which shields (aim for double vanguard)? I believe ranged heroes don't benefit much from a shield if i'm not mistaken...

 

The double stout shield on axe build used to be phenomenal back in the day, he could solo intercept creepwaves and unless you were ranged you couldn't do anything about it at all.

But that was like 2 years ago, at one point IceFrog changed the way damage block for stout shields work, so it's pretty useless now.

Also I don't see any reason to get two vanguards, it is cost effective survivability when you get one if you get it fast, but even rushing two by the time you get the second there are much much better item options you could have gone so you will find yourself behind. Especially as vang loses effectiveness as time goes on.
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Playing the game as a team is try hard? Wining the game is try hard? Guess I am playing the game for the wrong reason.

In pub games you play for fun. You try your limits. You dont play 100% safe. Gaming as a team 1 hero early on is try hard. When the game is a tie then trying is a thing to do. You play to win everything but a good play wins without trying hard biggrin.gif.
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In pub games you play for fun. You try your limits. You dont play 100% safe. Gaming as a team 1 hero early on is try hard. When the game is a tie then trying is a thing to do. You play to win everything but a good play wins without trying hard biggrin.gif.

Yeah man I don't agree with the use of phrase "Try hards" as an insult. If you are insulting someone for trying to win a game then you're either bad or screwing around. And if you're screwing around I think you should be playing bots.

The only time I'd use the phrase try hard is when people stay after an abandonment simply to delay victory. Or when people try to copy crazy Na.vi strats or crazy singsing builds and screw it up.
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Yeah man I don't agree with the use of phrase "Try hards" as an insult. If you are insulting someone for trying to win a game then you're either bad or screwing around. And if you're screwing around I think you should be playing bots.
The only time I'd use the phrase try hard is when people stay after an abandonment simply to delay victory. Or when people try to copy crazy Na.vi strats or crazy singsing builds and screw it up.

I understand what you mean. Its not about winning the game it how you win it. Pub games are pub games. You only pub a certain amount of effort. You try hard from example in a tournament.

The biggest problem with pub games at least in my level is picking heros. Either too many carry, too many support, no hard carry to counter certain hard carry.
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Not sure why being a try hard in a pub game is a bad thing.
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Not sure why being a try hard in a pub game is a bad thing.

Means you are a loser and you are not playing the game biggrin.gif. I i tried really hard in every game i would probably won more games, get more frustrated end in the end not have fun. Depending on the people you play with you try to play at ur best or not.
On top of all of that its much easier for me to play a game knowing i am playing for fun because i cant try hard all the time.
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All I'm seeing is that its pretty similar to LoL which for me is not a bad thing as I never got to play the original Dota. then again I've never really been very good at these games but hey what is the point if your always amazing at something gives you something to strive for XD
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All I'm seeing is that its pretty similar to LoL which for me is not a bad thing as I never got to play the original Dota. then again I've never really been very good at these games but hey what is the point if your always amazing at something gives you something to strive for XD

I have been playing league for about 2 years now and Dota...much different than LoL. The main difference to me is the denying system. Also, you have to get used to how the towers work because I think they function a bit differently. I tried out Dota 2 and I do so horrible in it, it is not even funny. I think I went like 0/9 or something in my first game because my friend forced me to play a normal instead of AI but still, I was not that bad in League. Dota just has a much steeper learning curve.
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