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I still call most heroes by WC3 names because they are ingrained into my head.
 
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Drow is over done? What do you mean?

Think I like drow, anti mage, void as carries the most. Drow because of sick damage and shadow blade, anti mage because blink is good, void because I'm above average in chronosphere planting.

What I mean is you get tired of seeing her... she wins alot because all she needs is time and a little farm and can completely upset a game (for pubs). I've gon 0-5 before 11... rest of them wasn't doing that well, we end up holding out past 35 min (where the enemy team's strategy starts to fall off) and after a little farm... go 16-6 and win from being at base towers w/ 1 lane down... Only other carry 2 carries i've seen do that are Medusa and Faceless, but drow gets picked more simply because shes far easier to play than either of those 2.
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I still call most heroes by WC3 names because they are ingrained into my head.

Same here, its just one of those things you can't shed after years of playing the original.
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Think I like drow, anti mage, void as carries the most. Drow because of sick damage and shadow blade, anti mage because blink is good, void because I'm above average in chronosphere planting.


I have noticed that spectre is no longer a popular carry in the game?
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Spectre needs to get babysit'd a lot in order to actually "carry", and that doesn't happen in pub game, she is sometimes picked in pro games but if the game doesn't go past 50 minutes I don't see the point of winning with a Spectre.
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Spectre needs to be babied, usually once all the team fights start its best to just let spectre free farm and if they are good will ult in and clean up. In pub games its usually not best to play heros like this, most people of your teammates won't understand why you are just farming and not helping, etc.

The most popular pub carries are ones with really good farm mechanics, (aoe clear or illusionis) or escape mechanisms, spectre really doesn't get either but if the game goes late he can become a monster.
Heros like
Drow Ranger
Phantom Lancer
Alchemist
These are the ones I play against the most, phantom lancer is by far the most annoying. I rarely see anti-mage picked, its probably the best carry in game though aside from maybe phantom lancer but phantom requires your team to have some slows so the illusions can do work.



with that being sad, I almost hate playing carry cause stuff like this always happens to me
https://dotabuff.com/matches/104940676
https://dotabuff.com/matches/103692900

Neither games are crazy, I played as silencer (first game but played similiar hero in HoN) and skeleton king. Both games I did my thing, got towers, got kills, but nobody on my team did anything else..I usually play as 5 but if i want to play and can't play as 5 I just que up. I know a lot of people don't even play if they don't have there team due to pubs being bad
Edited by JAM3S121 - 1/23/13 at 1:02pm
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We should set up five mans here on OCN!
 
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I still call most heroes by WC3 names because they are ingrained into my head.

Me too. Mirana is still potm to me and I call Tiny Tony. Haha.
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Anti Mage is a good carry because he gets up to max farm much faster than any other carry, and with amazing survivability while doing so. Viper and Ursa aren't actually hard carries, and Invoker while being a great utility hero, is actually a viable carry as well (farm build w/ forge spirits).

Jugger going aghas first is also an alternative build for him, due to HP and mana and the fact that early game he is all spin/ult, but I personally hate it. It depends if your team wants to win early or go late, but then again Jugg as a late carry is simply not as good as the alternatives so meh.
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Yeah, the game really calls a lot of "semi carries" actual full blown carries.

I don't consider Queen of Pain, Storm Spirit, Nyx, Razor, Lina and a few others carries while the game calls them. To me a carry is a hero that scales all game, i.e anti mage, huskar, faceless void, spectre, outworld destroyer etc. Most of the carry heros that win games seem to be semi carry heros though cause rarely do my games go past 35minutes.
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speaking of that I also liked PL as melee carry apart from just anti mage and void. I never really know what to get with PL and AM though, especially AM.

With void it's pretty simple. Treads, 1 or 2 wraith bands depending on early game performance, then just mask of madness, butterfly and then either heart or burize

I go treads, wraith band and quick diffusial blade with PL cuz purge helps A TON. Then the usual, butterfly, heart, etc

anti mage though....usually I just go treads, wraith band, then basher and hope for the best tongue.gif I notice that they buffed the stun percentage to 25% or something? That;s crazy man. I see myself often landing stuns with it now. I only get it on AM so far though.


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What I mean is you get tired of seeing her... she wins alot because all she needs is time and a little farm and can completely upset a game (for pubs). I've gon 0-5 before 11... rest of them wasn't doing that well, we end up holding out past 35 min (where the enemy team's strategy starts to fall off) and after a little farm... go 16-6 and win from being at base towers w/ 1 lane down... Only other carry 2 carries i've seen do that are Medusa and Faceless, but drow gets picked more simply because shes far easier to play than either of those 2.
yes

as much as I like to play drow, I really think she should be nerfed in some way, maybe -0.3 str for each level gain or something. She almost has the same HP as other heros while doing crazy damage. Ult helps a lot too. The level 1 ult was an instant transformation
Edited by HarrisLam - 1/23/13 at 6:50pm
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