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So....what do you like to build on Tusk?
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Tank items IIRC, such an in-your-face hero. Needs his survivability!
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So....what do you like to build on Tusk?

Oh man this is awesome!!!!! been waiting for this hero like ages and finally hes here!! this one and cm is my heroes no 1 biggrin.gif
post #3534 of 17115
He's a pretty good concept both graphics/voice wise. I'm waiting for Skywrath/Xin to be ported though.
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Aside from the obvious "teamwork", can anyone suggest me a hero to train when drow is on the opposite team and PL is already picked?

I currently pick mostly phantom lancer. If he is picked I will go sven or drow. If my team has 2 or more ranged I will go sven. If sufficient stuns I might go drow.


When drow is on the other team, I don't really want to pick a melee hero as I can't easily run away. I mean drow even has silence for heros like AM or panda ult or stun or whatever, as if it wasn't hard enough to get away from her (and I'm not physically ready to get BKB just for that). Sven is totally out of question as the frost arrows plus silence totally pwn him.

If PL isn't picked I'll still get him as I usually invis before initiate. I should be fine as long as I dont get caught being alone too often.

So then the problem comes when Drow is on the other team but PL is already picked. What other melee hero can I go (perferably a hero that can have a big impact to the game, like a semi carry, but with a reliable escape spell)?


All I can think of is BH. Anyone has a better idea? I don't really wanna pick riki all day long....
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Aside from the obvious "teamwork", can anyone suggest me a hero to train when drow is on the opposite team and PL is already picked?

I currently pick mostly phantom lancer. If he is picked I will go sven or drow. If my team has 2 or more ranged I will go sven. If sufficient stuns I might go drow.


When drow is on the other team, I don't really want to pick a melee hero as I can't easily run away. I mean drow even has silence for heros like AM or panda ult or stun or whatever, as if it wasn't hard enough to get away from her (and I'm not physically ready to get BKB just for that). Sven is totally out of question as the frost arrows plus silence totally pwn him.

If PL isn't picked I'll still get him as I usually invis before initiate. I should be fine as long as I dont get caught being alone too often.

So then the problem comes when Drow is on the other team but PL is already picked. What other melee hero can I go (perferably a hero that can have a big impact to the game, like a semi carry, but with a reliable escape spell)?


All I can think of is BH. Anyone has a better idea? I don't really wanna pick riki all day long....

i think BH, BS would be good too, drow has a small life pool so ult and force staff and then one more hit = kill...?
post #3537 of 17115
A carry to go against here or a pick general against drow? Just go nyx and follow/gank her all the time once you hit 6
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Thanks for the suggestions!

I'm mostly concern with the situation of drow coming in with shadowblade and initiate with silence. In this case, even a semi-tank sven can die without hitting more than once, assuming the drow is standing still. Even if sven ult-stun initiate first, as long as drow still has 1/3 hp she can pull off invis -> run back 3 inches, reveal and start shooting away, silence when needed.

to me drow isn't scary in a teamfight until the very end game, as that's where all the AOE spells get casted and its not hard to catch a drow off guard in big fights. It's the solo encounters where she's annoying as hell.



BH is a great choice because with his WW duration being longer than cd, there is a small chance I get solo backstabbed by drow as I'll spend most of the time neutraling, ganking or being invis.

NA is a decent choice also, as he is an excellent mid game ganker and can invis initiate. Though I am kind of worried about his capability in late game where face-to-face damage matters more.

BS is....well...I don't know. If he has the ms bonus at the time drow reveals then maybe it works. Otherwise he will die faster than sven with or without the silence.


just gotta say though, it is hard to find a non invis melee hero that can go head to head with drow post-early-game. Most of the time massive teamwork is involved when killing her, and that's not something I want to rely on in low tier pub games (where I'm at, basically)
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Thanks for the suggestions!

I'm mostly concern with the situation of drow coming in with shadowblade and initiate with silence. In this case, even a semi-tank sven can die without hitting more than once, assuming the drow is standing still. Even if sven ult-stun initiate first, as long as drow still has 1/3 hp she can pull off invis -> run back 3 inches, reveal and start shooting away, silence when needed.

to me drow isn't scary in a teamfight until the very end game, as that's where all the AOE spells get casted and its not hard to catch a drow off guard in big fights. It's the solo encounters where she's annoying as hell.



BH is a great choice because with his WW duration being longer than cd, there is a small chance I get solo backstabbed by drow as I'll spend most of the time neutraling, ganking or being invis.

NA is a decent choice also, as he is an excellent mid game ganker and can invis initiate. Though I am kind of worried about his capability in late game where face-to-face damage matters more.

BS is....well...I don't know. If he has the ms bonus at the time drow reveals then maybe it works. Otherwise he will die faster than sven with or without the silence.


just gotta say though, it is hard to find a non invis melee hero that can go head to head with drow post-early-game. Most of the time massive teamwork is involved when killing her, and that's not something I want to rely on in low tier pub games (where I'm at, basically)

Oh as for BS if drow will have low hp that turns his passive no shadow blade will save her ass smile.gif
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With NA as long as they don't have the gem/drow hasn't farmed bkb(even then) , 5m dota is more annoying with playing NA tho however it means they are not farming that well. If drow would to catch u with shadow blade - just get ghost scept and make it into ethereal blade later on. And you should be aiming to contantly gank and finish it mid-game not taking into late (though Sheepstick is possibility for late to counter drow)
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