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Since the CD for the treant spawn (37sec) is less than the duration of the treants themselves (60sec), if you time your first treant spawn correctly, you can have the original 2 up, send them to the first camp you want to kill, and then spawn a second set in order to help take down the neutral camp faster.

This means you can have 4 treants for the first camp you attack for 23 seconds.
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what do u mean double?

Treant cooldown is shorter than treant duration.
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Anyone in US time ranges with high skill levels want to try and form a team for the OCN tourny or has a group and wants to possibly pick up another player? I'm down for the OCN division but I want to play the competitive division, maybe play both.
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Sooo whose anus is still raw from last night?! biggrin.gif

I've said it a bunch to my Ukranian dota friends, and I'll say it here again:

Dont **** with Dirge early game.
Edited by kmac20 - 9/18/13 at 3:00am
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Sooo whose anus is still raw from last night?! biggrin.gif

I've said it a bunch to my Ukranian dota friends, and I'll say it here again:

Dont **** with Dirge early game.

I LOVE Undying...one of the best killers with a lane partner at lvl 2
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I LOVE Undying...one of the best killers with a lane partner at lvl 2

every time I have ever played undying I have sucked b***s ...


Do you have a match ID for the game where he was played well ?
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every time I have ever played undying I have sucked b***s ...


Do you have a match ID for the game where he was played well ?

I usually dont like purge too much but got some good info here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-eVebL_rT8

Reasons Undying is good (both in pubs and in pro):

He's stupid good early-mid game
Low item dependency
Decay makes it easy to kill your opponents due to losing strength -- all nukes are far more potent
Decay makes Undying harder to kill and able to dive towers
Decay is spammable
Tombstone is nearly unstoppable early game because you cannot take it out
Zombie slow is deadly early game when no one has boots
Pros coordinate and commit to a fight when Tombstone is dropped
Soul Rip is very versatile in that you can heal allies/Tombstone, or damage enemies
His ult amplifies damage based on how close he is to enemies --> really good for team fights (especially in early game where getting 1-2 Decays off will keep you alive for the entire fight)
Also, due to Decay, he's hard to trilane against (which is popular in the pro scene right now)

heres a pro game with KSI on dirge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agzvs_bhqT0&feature=player_embedded#t=721
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ah silencer you are so much fun he got me my first match with ten kills and like I said previously has been a blast to play ah.
    
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I wish undying would get picked more in pro games. I can't remember the last time I seen him in a pro game.
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I wish undying would get picked more in pro games. I can't remember the last time I seen him in a pro game.

He falls off much too quickly.

His strength lies in trilanes. Whether against them or with them. The problem is, there are other trilaners that are still relevant much later in the game.

Undying
  • Needs to be in the middle of a teamfight to maximise his damage amp]
  • Zombies deal physical damage, and does not scale.
  • Needs farm to maximize his potential

Current popular trilaner: Visage

  • Needs a medallion/brown boots/vit booster to be relevant late game
  • Ultimate provides much more utility (Vision, stuns, burst dps) through all stages of the game
  • Does not need to be in the front lines to maximize use of his skills
  • Needs very little farm to maximize his potential


Undying needs a few tweaks to be strong enough for current trilanes. The fact that he is melee also does not help.


I think if they scaled zombie damage (perhaps if tombstone had a negative armor aura or additional damage amp aura).

Maybe even a meager int gain boost coupled with a decreased Decay CD could be the push he needs to be utilized more often.
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