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Nope, it doesnt stack. And even if it did, I would never build 2 of them since it would only grant you damage. I'd just use the funds for something more useful like a bfly. thumb.gif


I already had Bfly and Diffusal 2, treads, Ring of Basc, along with manta ... ... Then I built Radiance and didn't know what to do with my like 7K gold so I sold RoB and got another Radiance ... Didn't know it didn't stack
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Get Heart.

Makes your Illusions more tanky. More tanky = around longer for more burn.
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Nope, it doesnt stack. And even if it did, I would never build 2 of them since it would only grant you damage. I'd just use the funds for something more useful like a bfly. thumb.gif

this to the 3rd power, provided that IF a PL were to go for radiance, then butterfly would have to be the 6th item in my opinion.

My build :

Boots => drums(cheap stats with bonus) => diffusial = > Manta => heart => butterfly

For a greedy build, go yasha before diffusial.



Don't really like radiance because its risky, but if you must, I guess you can skip drums for it.
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In all honesty I had tried PL before when having 200ms+ of ping and could almost never land last hits or get farm ... ... I tried him a handful of times and left it for when I have a better connection ...


Last night was the first time I managed to play him semi decently and my order was:


Starting:: Regen + RoP + Branches -> Treads -> Ring of Basc -> Diffusal -> Manta -> Radiance
(I may have done Treads and RoB in the other order)


My initial lane experience sucked so badly ... Was up against a SB and Skywrath ... in the mid we were up against a heavy farmed WD and in bottom we had a WR and NS ...


Game stats are finally showing on Dotabuff :: 13 - 4 - 17 ... farm rated in at 31.9k ... lol


Match ID: 459371321
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I still like Tranqs + Drums on PL. He doesn't have a blink so any movement speed buff can lead to better farm.

That's not greedy Harris! Where's the Midas?
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EF : i never get midas on PL, sets him back way too much for my playstyle and my meta. As i told you before i have to account for all kinds of harassments and lasthit fighting, midas is too hard for me to reach for. I think I've tried midas for Luna, Lifestealer, and found that I win more without it, especially lifestealer. I feel like i also miss way too much early aggression opportunities by going midas,


Emissary : try going for starting PL items : regen + queling blade + stats. PL + QB gives huge creep dmg at lv1, should not give much problems in lasthitting even with heavy pings

on a side note, don't go for a late radiance..... people get it for the burn dmg. If you get it that late, even supports can stay in the AOE for 10 seconds and not give a dam. And *imo*, getting radiance just for illusion push late game is not worth it

If you must get radiance, get it before 25 mins as your first core. (you *could* finish drums before radiance as it gives you more survivability, but its not favorable any later than that)

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EF : i never get midas on PL, sets him back way too much for my playstyle and my meta. As i told you before i have to account for all kinds of harassments and lasthit fighting, midas is too hard for me to reach for. I think I've tried midas for Luna, Lifestealer, and found that I win more without it, especially lifestealer. I feel like i also miss way too much early aggression opportunities by going midas,

I dont know why people think that if u go for midas ur greedy.If ur on a trilane and u get a good amount of farm,its a must,not just because it gives u 190 gold every 100 sec,but because normally if ur on trilane u have a small xp gain and midas gets u 2.5x for converting + all the money u get from it goes to reliable gold....
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I still like Tranqs + Drums on PL. He doesn't have a blink so any movement speed buff can lead to better farm.

Try to avoid Tranquils in a standard PL build after their most recent change - not attacking or being attacked for 13s on a melee carry who goes up to the wave to last hit isn't going to work very well.
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Emissary : try going for starting PL items : regen + queling blade + stats. PL + QB gives huge creep dmg at lv1, should not give much problems in lasthitting even with heavy pings

on a side note, don't go for a late radiance..... people get it for the burn dmg. If you get it that late, even supports can stay in the AOE for 10 seconds and not give a dam. And *imo*, getting radiance just for illusion push late game is not worth it

If you must get radiance, get it before 25 mins as your first core. (you *could* finish drums before radiance as it gives you more survivability, but its not favorable any later than that)

my 2 cents anyway


If I go PL again I will definitely will give QB a try but every single time I go PL I land up in lane against a ranged hero or 2 and that is never fun ...

Also, I did the usual core items before getting Radiance because I wasn't even sure if it was worth it or how effective it is ...


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Try to avoid Tranquils in a standard PL build after their most recent change - not attacking or being attacked for 13s on a melee carry who goes up to the wave to last hit isn't going to work very well.

That is why I have been staying away from Tranqs ... ... I use them on CM if I am going to do a roaming CM game .. otherwise it will always be phase/treads ...
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Fun game i played with friends yesterday (i'm playing Krob here)

http://dotabuff.com/matches/459594737

It was lozly to see them fail their tri against solo Krobelus, + got a really nice block of creeps at hard lane as they arrived almost at my tower. tongue.gif
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