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Seeding the idea of how to play was always useful in LoL. But LoL is harder to carry 1v5 than DoTa2. I've noticed that in DoTA2 its WAY harder to get people to group and cordinate than in LoL and I have no idea why. maybe its just because im Low level.

however the voicechat function is pretty nice for directing commands.

Not sure why vs LOL but one big thing I've noticed in dota2 is people go into a game often expecting those who pick their heroes will be playing them in their standard roles when this is often not the case. And the ppl get frustrated since the carry is actually playing support or the support is taking the farm in the safe Lane. If I solo que I tend to talk quite a bit to at least figure out if ppl are playing traditional roles and what they're looking to do, I don't mind helping but ppl (even those who desperately need it) dont think they do.

So when for example ef goes and starts his shenanigans and creep blocks 6 waves with ES (earthshaker for the new guys) and forgot to tell his off laner who dies under tower 2 min into the game people start getting frustrated, because they expected him to be supporting the off lane not standing in the trees.

So communication is pretty vital, it is a team game after all, I've found that in lower - mid lvl games usually the team that wins is the one who communicates best and will actually allow someone to be the "leader" drives me nuts when someone tries to take charge and someone else immediately assumes that the leader thinks they know more than everyone else...not always true (sometimes though) the team just needs a leader, look at the pro teams the captain is not always the most skilled player but simply the one who the others will listen to and execute on his command.

~end of rant

I've got to stop reading this thread the more I read the more I want to get back on and play...On the upside I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel...I think

Edited for swypoes, I'm sure there's more
Edited by Jim888 - 3/3/14 at 6:00pm
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Not sure why vs LOL but one big thing I've noticed in dota2 is people go into a game often expecting those who pick their heroes will be playing them in their standard roles when this is often not the case. And the ppl get frustrated since the carry is actually playing support or the support is taking the farm in the safe Lane. If I solo que I tend to talk quite a bit to at least figure out if ppl are playing traditional roles and what they're looking to do, I don't mind helping but ppl (even those who desperately need it) dont think they do.

So when for example ef goes and starts his shenanigans and creep blocks 6 waves with ES (earthshaker for the new guys) and forgot to tell his off laner who dies under tower 2 min into the game people start getting frustrated, because they expected him to be supporting the off lane not standing in the trees.

So communication is pretty vital, it is a team game after all, I've found that in lower - mid lvl games usually the team that wins is the one who communicates best and will actually allow someone to be the "leader" drives me nuts when someone tries to take charge and someone else immediately assumes that the leader thinks they know more than everyone else...not always true (sometimes though) the team just needs a leader, look at the pro teams the captain is not always the most skilled player but simply the one who the others will listen to and execute on his command.

~end of rant

I've got to stop reading this thread the more I read the more I want to get back on and play...On the upside I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel...I think

Edited for swypoes, I'm sure there's more

I generally stand up to be a leader, I've found that's the best way to really get people to listen.


When on a team though, Ive found that synergy is far more important than each players individual skill. I've seen highly syngerized low ELO teams beat diamonds because the diamond team was made of people who cant play well together.

unfortunately being a jerk and critical of everyone and ridicule(when playing solo) in low ELO's in LoL was the only way to really get people to listen and play the match out correctly.
At Plat/Diamond though, being nice and positive was the best way to really get a team to focus in on playing together.

Low ELO's are cocky little smartasses that need a boot to the ass to realize they suck at least for 30 minutes so they will stop acting with a godcomplex and actually play. But at higher ELO people play to snowball so upsetting someone turns out to be a bad idea.
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I generally stand up to be a leader, I've found that's the best way to really get people to listen.


When on a team though, Ive found that synergy is far more important than each players individual skill. I've seen highly syngerized low ELO teams beat diamonds because the diamond team was made of people who cant play well together.

unfortunately being a jerk and critical of everyone and ridicule(when playing solo) in low ELO's in LoL was the only way to really get people to listen and play the match out correctly.
At Plat/Diamond though, being nice and positive was the best way to really get a team to focus in on playing together.

Low ELO's are cocky little smartasses that need a boot to the ass to realize they suck at least for 30 minutes so they will stop acting with a godcomplex and actually play. But at higher ELO people play to snowball so upsetting someone turns out to be a bad idea.

you pretty much nailed it, only problem is when you get people who refuse to listen/cooperate or you get soneone else who wants to be the leader
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I gave up doing that. People report you.

I get more annoyed by the trash talk.

Report me? Alright. Do that, then stay silent.

Of course they never did.
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i just troll them back.

I have successfully made at least 5 people rage quit. They start talking garbage, and I hit them hard while everyone else gets a free laugh. When everyone else agrees with me and is laughing at said guy, they usually rage. I don't troll much, but when I do my goal is to make them quit.

BTW don't let EF play earth shaker on the radiant side. Hes banned lol

speaking of EF, where has he been i haven't seen him on dotos lately.
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Dang, we have a newcomer. Wish I could play some games with ya.

In related news. Had a fun LAN party last week in the basement and played lots of Dota 3v3's (for those that don't know, my internet blows). Had more people but some didn't play Dota. Some really amazing ability draft games, once they introduce AP into that mode I might play it almost exclusively. Also, my roadwarrior PC hard drive just bit the dust so I'm down for a minute.

P.S. KMAC wants my nuts, invites every day!
   
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BTW, how do I join this Dota 2 Guild?
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BTW, how do I join this Dota 2 Guild?
I second this notion.
    
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1) join the "OCN" channel in the dota 2 game client (set it to auto-join everytime you log in would be best)

2) scream "I WANT TO GET INTO THE OCN GUILD!!" every time you log in

3) pray that an authorized individual sees your message and invites you
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1) join the "OCN" channel in the dota 2 game client (set it to auto-join everytime you log in would be best)

2) scream "I WANT TO GET INTO THE OCN GUILD!!" every time you log in

3) pray that an authorized individual sees your message and invites you

That... works.
    
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