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Theres like anywhere from 15-20 thousand people online at any given time, you're probably too impatient to wait 20 seconds to find a game.

Why our premade always take 3mins+ ? this is madness mad.gif
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Why our premade always take 3mins+ ? this is madness mad.gif

Pretty sure it was only taking that long when someone was in the leaver pool. Don't think it has taken that long lately. If so, matchmaking with parties might be to blame.
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There is no substance in your reply because you simply repeated yourself over and over saying "I guess its a difference of opinion" and "I know its in beta."
I don't like how HoN is trying to be exactly like Dota yet different at the same time, its got an identity crisis if you ask me. If you want to play a Dota clone just play Dota 1 or 2. It doesn't deliver anything new that makes it worthwhile to switch.
Pretty sure nearly every hero shows off the engine, its not like they are reusing any of the animations from Dota 1.
Theres like anywhere from 15-20 thousand people online at any given time, you're probably too impatient to wait 20 seconds to find a game.
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Whatever it takes to get my point across. smile.gif My observations are my opinion. I stated this several times, but at the end of your post you said something along the lines of how everything I said is my opinion and thus carries no weight... Well, buddy, guess what? It wasn't supposed to be anything but my opinion. If I wanted to write a formal critique comparing HoN to DotA 2 I would.

Also, on average my wait time for a game has been over 4 minutes. HoN is generally under 2, usually within 1. But thanks, once again, for taking a jab at my character. First you implied that I was a leaver now you're calling me impatient. I wonder what's next...

And for the record, I completely agree with you guys when you talk about balance being essential to IceFrog/Valve. That is one of my main complaints about HoN, and it's actually something the developers have taken note of. They have slowed down their hero production considerably. I'm just a gamer like you guys, and the bottom line is I want to invest my time in the best product, or the game that will be the most fun/competitive in my opinion.
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Whatever it takes to get my point across. smile.gif My observations are my opinion. I stated this several times, but at the end of your post you said something along the lines of how everything I said is my opinion and thus carries no weight... Well, buddy, guess what? It wasn't supposed to be anything but my opinion. If I wanted to write a formal critique comparing HoN to DotA 2 I would.
Also, on average my wait time for a game has been over 4 minutes. HoN is generally under 2, usually within 1. But thanks, once again, for taking a jab at my character. First you implied that I was a leaver now you're calling me impatient. I wonder what's next...
And for the record, I completely agree with you guys when you talk about balance being essential to IceFrog/Valve. That is one of my main complaints about HoN, and it's actually something the developers have taken note of. They have slowed down their hero production considerably. I'm just a gamer like you guys, and the bottom line is I want to invest my time in the best product, or the game that will be the most fun/competitive in my opinion.

I said your points are based too heavily on your opinion to carry any weight. What I mean is that you are lacking facts and valid points for you to sway my viewpoint. Your argument is far from concrete although I know you never said it was. I also said "you may be in the leaver pool" not "you are/probably are a leaver." Pretty big difference there. I meant no harm by that and there are a lot of people on Dota 2 that complain matchmaking takes a while and the cause is usually because they are in the leaver pool.

I also assumed you are impatient which may not have been the smartest of judgments but when I play solo it takes no time to find a game. I apologize for passing that judgement upon you.
Edited by Zulli85 - 12/19/11 at 8:13pm
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Thanks erin for showing me a little bit about dota 2 yesterday. I still gotta get used to the game tongue.gif
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Thanks erin for showing me a little bit about dota 2 yesterday. I still gotta get used to the game tongue.gif

It's quite different from LoL, if you play DotA (original) you'd cry, the camera is so zoom in, and the max resolution doesn't fit today screen anymore lol
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I finally brought myself to play the first DotA yesterday. The items took me a little while to remember, but it all came back to me in the second match as I played -aremngne (yup played bots lol). It selected the Intelligence hero: The two-headed Ogre. I forgot how awesome DotA is, and it was so good to play a game that does not have things like summoner spells and other things that make the game so easy.

BTW: I went straight from my base items into Power Treads, followed by Staff of Divinity before getting myself more mana+hp. I then went for a refresher orb (pretty cool when you think about his level 6 that allows for a double cast of one of his abilites+ a instant refresh) and then ended the match. Is this a decent build or am I completely off track for DotA 2?
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Hm, I actually never tried refresher on ogre.. Might give it a go. Will prolly end up as carry in that case biggrin.gif
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The only reason I would get Refresher Orb for Orge Magi is when I buy Dagon on him, why would you spend 6k on a 6s cooldown spell ? If you're winning by a far margin, that's understandable, but ... rushing it ... hum rolleyes.gif
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Hm, I actually never tried refresher on ogre.. Might give it a go. Will prolly end up as carry in that case biggrin.gif

?????

That has got to be one of the worst ideas I've ever heard in regards to Dota item builds haha.

Refresher costs 5,300 gold and has a 160 second cooldown. Ogre Magi's spells have cooldowns of 12 to 20 seconds. Refresher is a 100% waste 5,300 gold on Ogre.
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