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I quite like an early cryslis(red sword thingy) but I'm favoriing an early orchid atm.
Was thinking Monkey kingbar over daedelus though.
Phase boots, morbid mask, orchid, then damage itemization.

How is shadowblade? or Manta Style?
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I quite like an early cryslis(red sword thingy) but I'm favoriing an early orchid atm.
Was thinking Monkey kingbar over daedelus though.
Phase boots, morbid mask, orchid, then damage itemization.

How is shadowblade? or Manta Style?


Seriously stop with the wind ranger carry crap. Wanna carry wind ranger play bots. I've never seen a pro match where Wind Ranger was used as a carry, or even remotely close to a carry.
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Seriously stop with the wind ranger carry crap. Wanna carry wind ranger play bots. I've never seen a pro match where Wind Ranger was used as a carry, or even remotely close to a carry.
Pro matches are not pubs.
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Seriously stop with the wind ranger carry crap. Wanna carry wind ranger play bots. I've never seen a pro match where Wind Ranger was used as a carry, or even remotely close to a carry.

What about my support Drow?

I will make it work one day!

Fran, WR is about tempo. You can "carry" if you out tempo the enemy team but having a set item item build out is only going to hurt you long run. Start looking into gold cost vs efficiency.

Also if you really wanted to go pure burst damage I would look into some of the support items. WR is a INT hero so she gains base damage plus a bigger mana pool (for powershot spam) from INT items. That's why IMO sheep stick is so good. Rises her base damage, gives her an extra disable for a longer burst damage duration. Or Force staff, gives you positioning (gives you a few extra attacks or an escape) + base damage. Force staff alone has netted me so many powershot kills that would have been out of range.

Unless your skill build rushes Windrun > Powershot I don't understand your item choices.
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[A]lliance recently tried to do carry WR. They lost laning phase so it failed miserably.

Y u no build Skadi? tongue.gif
   
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Seriously stop with the wind ranger carry crap. Wanna carry wind ranger play bots. I've never seen a pro match where Wind Ranger was used as a carry, or even remotely close to a carry.
hhmmm...

No.

I have always been an unconventional player, and It's something I've always liked doing.
And don't say "you'll always be bad then" because I rose above the 50% and was going to be on a Diamond team as a jungler in LoL.

Historically speaking, being an unconventional player achieved me my first and 2nd world first in an mmorpg as well as being the fastest known AoE leveler of my server. I ran a build that people believed I was playing on a Private server. Infact I was so good and so fast that I outpaced the mechanics of the game itself and only the highest skilled players were capable of supporting me.
My 4 other world firsts an another MMORPG also were from playing unconventionally. While everyone of my class spec and populous was trying to run AoE I developed a core 1v1 build and out level'd my peers drastically, yet the meta was to build AoE Kiting.
I set the definition of what It meant to build an Amazon in that game.

Unconventional ideas have always been my flavor, and that's never going to change.
Edited by FranBunnyFFXII - 3/24/14 at 11:24am
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WR is not really a carry but if the game goes late enough she really can put out some dps, I've seen really long games where WR ends up really doing some crazy damage even though she started as a 3/4 role

not a great example of WR dps...but MAN those shackels!

YYF-->Hacks!
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I say play it until you discover it's limitations. Just keep in mind compared to other MOBAs like LoL heroes are balanced around counterpicking. So make sure to pick your items based on stopping the enemy from doing what they want to do, not focusing on an "optimal build" because it will need to be different almost every game. Unless you're playing at a professional level can WR play a 1 position? Sure, I say go for it. Even the current pro meta right now really revolves around lane domination and strong midgame fights/pushes, so your WR style even goes along well with that.

You seem to be quite the stubborn type, I absolutely don't understand the logic of the female only avatars or insisting on playing certain heroes as carries based on their personality/style... but hey if you're having fun and not feeding then I say keep up the good work. Still, if you're laning with a harder carry (say a Faceless Void or Luna), please don't steal his creeps.

Pros tend to be very slow at adapting to new ideas, so I would never let that stop you from doing something that wins your own games.
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I say play it until you discover it's limitations. Just keep in mind compared to other MOBAs like LoL heroes are balanced around counterpicking. So make sure to pick your items based on stopping the enemy from doing what they want to do, not focusing on an "optimal build" because it will need to be different almost every game. Unless you're playing at a professional level can WR play a 1 position? Sure, I say go for it. Even the current pro meta right now really revolves around lane domination and strong midgame fights/pushes, so your WR style even goes along well with that.

You seem to be quite the stubborn type, I absolutely don't understand the logic of the female only avatars or insisting on playing certain heroes as carries based on their personality/style... but hey if you're having fun and not feeding then I say keep up the good work. Still, if you're laning with a harder carry (say a Faceless Void or Luna), please don't steal his creeps.

Pros tend to be very slow at adapting to new ideas, so I would never let that stop you from doing something that wins your own games.
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Good advice thumb.gif

OT I just noticed you joined OCN 3 days before I did biggrin.gif
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Mkb,Daedalus,Linkens,MoM, forcestaff, blink dagger, shadowblade to snowball hard. whatever really... it all depends what you want to go or WHAT you need... i like MoM too on most heroes. biggrin.gif

but normally you'd go Phase->Mek/drums both. dagger more mobility-> then it depends in late game. scythe of vyse is also nice. lacking dmg?

get damage items.
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