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Mkb,Daedalus,Linkens,MoM, forcestaff, blink dagger, shadowblade to snowball hard. whatever really... it all depends what you want to go.. i like MoM too on most heroes. biggrin.gif

but normally you'd go Phase->Mek/drums both. dagger more mobility-> then it depends in late game. scythe of vyse is also nice. lacking dmg?

get damage items.

You like MoM on everybody.

Tox, you change your Steam name? I can't find you on my list.
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WR is not really a carry but if the game goes late enough she really can put out some dps, I've seen really long games where WR ends up really doing some crazy damage even though she started as a 3/4 role

not a great example of WR dps...but MAN those shackels!

YYF-->Hacks!

I miss the farm fest of old. Everybody had farm and lots of fireworks. Love dem shackles!

Walrus, that mean you'll let me carry WR while drunk?
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its actually not a bad item considering it has been buffed , haha biggrin.gif
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Walrus, that mean you'll let me carry WR while drunk?

That depends, can you last hit?
   
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its actually not a bad item considering it has been buffed , haha biggrin.gif

Been fingered with it on too many times. Dat burst damage!

Hey my double Mael build might work now. It got buffed too!
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That depends, can you last hit?

Well the booze says yes but not sure what the game says...

Miss ya Walrus!

And Fran just keep playing and experimenting. Walrus right on the pros being slow on new meta. Either they saving it or they just playing it safe since money on the line.

Inb4 Support Drow TI4.
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I say play it until you discover it's limitations. Just keep in mind compared to other MOBAs like LoL heroes are balanced around counterpicking. So make sure to pick your items based on stopping the enemy from doing what they want to do, not focusing on an "optimal build" because it will need to be different almost every game. Unless you're playing at a professional level can WR play a 1 position? Sure, I say go for it. Even the current pro meta right now really revolves around lane domination and strong midgame fights/pushes, so your WR style even goes along well with that.

You seem to be quite the stubborn type, I absolutely don't understand the logic of the female only avatars or insisting on playing certain heroes as carries based on their personality/style... but hey if you're having fun and not feeding then I say keep up the good work. Still, if you're laning with a harder carry (say a Faceless Void or Luna), please don't steal his creeps.

Pros tend to be very slow at adapting to new ideas, so I would never let that stop you from doing something that wins your own games.
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Yeah I'm a bit tired of the "pros dont do it so you shouldn't either" attitude.
In league of legends, when Ahri first came out she was considered a Mage and FoTM ADC, But no one remembers that, but contrary to popular idea Ahri can TrinityForce ADC and be the most mobile and one of the safest ADC picks in LoL.
And it's not like I don't notice the difference between Drow's and Wind's carry power, it's apparent, but still unwaving in my preferences.

I play female only avatars due to my own personal comfort and synergy, I did explain that a while back along with using an example of a pro player who is also a similar way.
Although LoL is better equiped to support gender preferences.

My biggest problem I have with this game won't ever be a hero choice or item pick, it will be overcoming my muscular issues, as with any game I play.
That and getting over my hatred for supporting, i hate supporting, but I'm not sure what all it entails doing here in DoTA2.
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Not to mention the big nerf to Ahri's AP scaling back when I was maining her mad.gif

#4 and #5 Supporting in Dota means one thing, you are on welfare. You are sacking your own gold for the good of the team. Buying couriers, wards, detection, etc will be all you can afford. Maybe, someday, you will be able to buy that shiny pair of brown boots you've always wanted. That is, if their mid stops blowing up your fragile hero every time her leaves lane. Your job is to secure your carry's farm in lane, make space, gank mid, and in general to get off your big spells in every fight. You will probably have the highest deaths on your team, but if you died in place of your carry then you did not die in vain.

P.S. In unorganized pub games, supports will probably secure more farm than in high level ranked games. For example aghs, drums, force staff, mekanysm. Still this gold should come in the form of jungle pulling, assists, and any kill that wasn't purposely stolen.
   
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Yeah I'm a bit tired of the "pros dont do it so you shouldn't either" attitude.
In league of legends, when Ahri first came out she was considered a Mage and FoTM ADC, But no one remembers that, but contrary to popular idea Ahri can TrinityForce ADC and be the most mobile and one of the safest ADC picks in LoL.
And it's not like I don't notice the difference between Drow's and Wind's carry power, it's apparent, but still unwaving in my preferences.

I play female only avatars due to my own personal comfort and synergy, I did explain that a while back along with using an example of a pro player who is also a similar way.
Although LoL is better equiped to support gender preferences.

My biggest problem I have with this game won't ever be a hero choice or item pick, it will be overcoming my muscular issues, as with any game I play.
That and getting over my hatred for supporting, i hate supporting, but I'm not sure what all it entails doing here in DoTA2.

The "pro" attitude some people have on mobas (or fps to a lesser extent) gets old really fast.
Do they play on on a competitive level? Most of the time they're not even playing in a team or any remotely competitive mode.

I understand the will to be the best at the game but if you're just copying and regurgitating pro stuff all day long, you're not even thinking by yourself or understanding how pros came to choose an option over another.

Also some strategies used on a competitive meta may not work in lower environment due to x or y reasons.

In the end, let them talk and just play the way you want, trial and error is fine as long you're willing to adapt for the best.
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All i can say is... KASSADIN.. "try that again" spam. rofl fun times
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Why hate supporting?

Supports are probably the most active position early.

If you understand why the meta works I think you can use it in any bracket. Most metas have some theory behind them and if you understand it, you can use it.

If you're just blindly following a meta, it won't do you much good.
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Why hate supporting?

Supports are probably the most active position early.

If you understand why the meta works I think you can use it in any bracket. Most metas have some theory behind them and if you understand it, you can use it.

If you're just blindly following a meta, it won't do you much good.
psst ef... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
META DOESNT EXIST
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