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congrats not bad, personally I'm not a fan of MOM (like Tox) so I would have worked towards a Mjolnir/Skadi but then again I'm not sure I've ever won a non LAN game with POTM

btw I've just got to go on record the more I see windrunners new name typed out the more I hate it

I like MOM and dislike it at the same time. It sorely punishes you for making a mistake, but it also greatly rewards you for good positioning and opportunity, it's also excellent sustain so you don't have to back off for health. It's a good split pushing item.

Winrunner is definitely a better name, but I had a habit of calling her sylvanas. tongue.gif
Funny thing I noticed about the windranger+drow ranger pairing, apparently it seems to be pretty well accepted among DoTA2 fandom, almost seems canon.
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Seriously stop with the wind ranger carry crap. Wanna carry wind ranger play bots. I've never seen a pro match where Wind Ranger was used as a carry, or even remotely close to a carry.

 



Well, the all-female roster thingy is a little odd but hey, if that's the player's personal preference I don't think we can really say much. Let them play how they like to play it. It has limitations but most of the time this will not contribute to the outcome of a game.

But carry / position 1-2 WR...... it's not seen very frequently, but definitely not never. Dendi himself has played mid WR and win games with her. So :

1) it is not unheard of
2) why do you think it's a good idea to use such negative and aggressive (I believe I'm being fairly generous here in describing your tone) language against another player because he/she doesn't do what the pros do?

I'm sorry but it has to be said. Respect, please.
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Pro matches are not pubs.
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Seriously stop with the wind ranger carry crap. Wanna carry wind ranger play bots. I've never seen a pro match where Wind Ranger was used as a carry, or even remotely close to a carry.

 



Well, the all-female roster thingy is a little odd but hey, if that's the player's personal preference I don't think we can really say much. Let them play how they like to play it. It has limitations but most of the time this will not contribute to the outcome of a game.

But carry / position 1-2 WR...... it's not seen very frequently, but definitely not never. Dendi himself has played mid WR and win games with her. So :

1) it is not unheard of
2) why do you think it's a good idea to use such negative and aggressive (I believe I'm being fairly generous here in describing your tone) language against another player because he/she doesn't do what the pros do?

I'm sorry but it has to be said. Respect, please.

I'm just saying that Wind Ranger is not a carry. She has much more useful roles in the game, than trying to carry. I don't mind how other people play her. If you want to play carry Wind Ranger I would suggest to stick to Bot matches, rather than let down an entire team trying to carry and fail. I am just using current pro meta to suggest that Its not a good idea. I'm not saying it cannot be done, but there are much better heroes available in game that will be much more useful carries.

Its not about respect. If someone has a dumb idea I will tell them its dumb. I am not going to embrace moronic when there is math and logic on my side. This is my effort to try and help people become better at playing Dota. Understand that certain heroes have very defined roles, and by straying from these roles these players will hurt their team overall. If you disagree with my opinion then ignore it.
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Seriously stop with the wind ranger carry crap. Wanna carry wind ranger play bots. I've never seen a pro match where Wind Ranger was used as a carry, or even remotely close to a carry.

 



Well, the all-female roster thingy is a little odd but hey, if that's the player's personal preference I don't think we can really say much. Let them play how they like to play it. It has limitations but most of the time this will not contribute to the outcome of a game.

But carry / position 1-2 WR...... it's not seen very frequently, but definitely not never. Dendi himself has played mid WR and win games with her. So :

1) it is not unheard of
2) why do you think it's a good idea to use such negative and aggressive (I believe I'm being fairly generous here in describing your tone) language against another player because he/she doesn't do what the pros do?

I'm sorry but it has to be said. Respect, please.

Meta breakers and unconventionals are always hated by the metasheep.

A very good amount of my lost ADC Ahri games in LoL were lost because intentionally throwing team mates.
Infact it happened enough that I desided to stop playing the champion all together.
Even though she's a capable ADC, and a few high ELO people will play ADC ahri from time to time, the metasheep would throw a game instead of play to win with an unconventional.

The quite hostile remark from the person is because he is a metasheep who gets enraged by unconventional players, just like in LoL. He doesn't think outside of the box, or understand the validity of non meta ideas.
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just be dendi.
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just be dendi.

joke or not ill take a chance to explain something
I could never be anything even close to Deni, my body simply is not capable of playing at a normal capacity.
I was barely able to play at LoL at all.

One reason I tend to focus on a single champion/hero or very small subset of heros/champions is to build a neurological pattern by 2nd nature behavior.
But it took me well over a year to do this with one champion in LoL and more than another year to expand out to 2 more, and they never became 2nd nature.
I pick hero's that will allow me to play in a way that I can play the, because I do not play in completely optimizable fashion. I could have the best build with the best carry drow ranger and I could still do nothing of worth in a game because of the neuromuscular limits that I have.

And don't tell me like other people have "if you cant play well enough then just play bots" I heartly disagree with that notion and extend a "buzz off" because I like to see just how far I can go before I hit the physical wall at which I can no longer improve.

In SC2 it was 1st place silver, in LoL it was Silver 2 1400 ELO, now I wonder what MMR I can reach in DoTA 2.
Edited by FranBunnyFFXII - 3/25/14 at 3:16am
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joke or not ill take a chance to explain something
I could never be anything even close to Deni, my body simply is not capable of playing at a normal capacity.
I was barely able to play at LoL at all.

One reason I tend to focus on a single champion/hero or very small subset of heros/champions is to build a neurological pattern by 2nd nature behavior.
But it took me well over a year to do this with one champion in LoL and more than another year to expand out to 2 more, and they never became 2nd nature.
I pick hero's that will allow me to play in a way that I can play the, because I do not play in completely optimizable fashion. I could have the best build with the best carry drow ranger and I could still do nothing of worth in a game because of the neuromuscular limits that I have.

And don't tell me like other people have "if you cant play well enough then just play bots" I heartly disagree with that notion and extend a "buzz off" because I like to see just how far I can go before I hit the physical wall at which I can no longer improve.

In SC2 it was 1st place silver, in LoL it was Silver 2 1400 ELO, now I wonder what MMR I can reach in DoTA 2.

In all honest, if i can reach 6K ill be happy or rather around 5.6K ish, so 500 mmr to go. or rather 600, im peaking at 5.250 mad.gif
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I honestly foresee carry Windrunner working just fine in pubs up to the point where the other team has an illusion carry. Vs a Chaos Knight or PL with diffusal it would be a complete bloodbath. Focus on your strengths which is lane phase, ganking/1v1, and pushing towers. End the game early instead of farming, whenever possible.
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I honestly foresee carry Windrunner working just fine in pubs up to the point where the other team has an illusion carry. Vs a Chaos Knight or PL with diffusal it would be a complete bloodbath. Focus on your strengths which is lane phase, ganking/1v1, and pushing towers. End the game early instead of farming, whenever possible.

Walrus, you exlpain so much better! WR all about tempo control!


Fran, a lot of us still play bots to try different heroes or strats. So don't think of bot practice as bad.

I hate people who feed and throw and I'll practice so I'm not that guy (sorry stack when I go yolo).

If you can beat bots on unfair you'll win laning 90% of the time until you hit higher brackets.

I'm all for you experimenting since I've done the same but I wanted you to save time from my experience and number crunching. From experience, buff her strengths not her mediocrity.

Side note, it took me almost a year to convince Ramz to bot and he's grown exponentially since than. You can't get consistent practice in a pub since it varies so much. Get a good baseline build and timing and start varying it up in pubs.
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