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post #401 of 841
Found another useful mod for Windows 8. This tutorial shows how to add a cascading "Power Menu". http://www.askvg.com/add-cascading-menu-for-restart-shut-down-hibernate-and-other-power-shortcuts-in-desktop-context-menu-of-windows-7-and-8/


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post #402 of 841
I don't mind metro at all, but having a start menu is just so much easier.



http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
post #403 of 841
Running W8 on my 2011 MacBook Pro. Works flawlessly. Not experiencing any decreases in responsiveness like I did with 7.
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Running W8 on my 2011 MacBook Pro. Works flawlessly. Not experiencing any decreases in responsiveness like I did with 7.

How does the battery life compare with when running OSX?
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How does the battery life compare with when running OSX?

If I make sure it's running in power-save mode, with brightness down, and the backlit keyboard off, about 5-6 hours.

If I don't take these steps, about an hour and a half to two hours, haha.

On OSX, I get about 7 hours.
post #406 of 841
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Originally Posted by 4ofus View Post

Found another useful mod for Windows 8. This tutorial shows how to add a cascading "Power Menu". http://www.askvg.com/add-cascading-menu-for-restart-shut-down-hibernate-and-other-power-shortcuts-in-desktop-context-menu-of-windows-7-and-8/

Very nice find!
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post #407 of 841
A comment someone posted to this article provides great rebuttal of a lot of points people have against Windows 8.
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"If you want to start Steam, you'll want to launch the Desktop app, and then launch Steam."

- Clicking on a tile for a "regular" application in the Start menu will launch the application on your desktop and close the Start menu. Alternatively, while the Start menu is open, you could simply start typing the word "Steam" and after a few keys hit Enter to launch it.


"If you want to swap between apps, you have to make a convoluted mouse gesture - move the mouse to the top left of the screen, and then down to select the window."

- Alt + Tab still works. Windows + Tab is a new alternative shortcut that will let you view, switch between, apps open on a given monitor. On that note, you failed to point out the improvements Microsoft made to multi-monitor support (for instance, the ability to display the task bar on all monitors).


"I've discovered more than anything that you spend more time fiddling with their arrangement than actually doing anything useful with them."

- Is this really a valid complaint about Windows 8? The fact that you can't find an arrangement that suits your personal taste feels irrelevant to me. I could spend all day finding the perfect way to arrange my windows on Windows 7 -- but I choose not to.


"Core apps that offer basic OS functionality are Metro only. And they’re awful

[...]

The email app is awful

[...]

The messages app is bafflingly terrible

[...]

The Calendar is unworkable

[...]

The video and music players are abysmal"

- This entire section is a review of the apps that come with Windows 8, not Windows 8 itself. To review the apps on their own is fair, but don't turn them into a red herring. These apps are in no way forced on you -– there are plenty of desktop-based alternatives out there.


"All of my music and video is stored on a Network Attached Storage device - but the Windows Video and Music players can’t seem to index those files."

- I don't know if you use Windows 7 or not, but in order for Windows Search to index network drives you need to mark the drive as "Always Available Offline". If you're more familiar with Windows Media Player, just use that instead (it's still there – just type "Windows Media Player" in the start menu).


"Internet Explorer just needs to stop"

- As a web developer, I think IE10 is a big step in the right direction for Microsoft (albeit a little late in the game). That said, if you'd prefer to use Chrome (as I do), why not just uninstall IE? Just open the control panel (type "Control Panel" with the Start menu open and it will come up), then click "Uninstall a program" > "Turn Windows Features on or off", and uncheck the box next to "Internet Explorer 10". If that process seems familiar to you – it should. It hasn’t changed at all from Windows 7.


"Desktop windows have got more complicated and less useful"

- Criticism of the ribbon is completely fair. It is controversial – I'm not even sure what I think of it yet. Fortunately it collapses so it's not wasting space when you don't need it. But you're right, it might take an extra second or two the first few times you use it to get oriented. I'm not sure what you mean by "randomly placed icons". Little more than a quick glance is necessary to see that each icon is labelled.


"There are random and delightful bugs and compatibility issues"

- You have a long way to go to prove that the bugs you're experiencing are either common or entirely Microsoft's fault. Out of curiousity, how many drivers did you need to install? I didn't need to install anything – it all just worked. Even on Windows 7 I used to need to install video drivers before all four of my monitors would work properly. What were you installing it onto? Any chance it could be your hardware, and not the operating system?


"If you’re using Metro apps, there is no clock"

- It will appear in the lower left corner of your screen when you mouse over the charms bar. A tip, though, in case you want to take a quick glance at the clock in the task bar: simply press Windows + D to go straight to the desktop, check the time, then press it again to return to the app you were in.

A huge complaint many people have had is the fact that it now takes 2 clicks to access things on the desktop -- which is simply untrue, considering you can just put it in the start screen (which is why it's there in the first place!).

Personally, my biggest complaint with Windows 8 has been the half-baked metro apps, and it's a great point that these aren't cooked into the OS itself -- in other words, if you don't like them, don't use them!

My second biggest complaint has been the lack of a button to close metro apps -- it may look better without one, but it's just annoying because apps I'm not using clutter up the left-side app bar.

Another thing that bothered me for a while was the lack of a clock in metro apps, but I've found that pressing Win + C works perfectly well (brings up the charms menu and a huge digital clock in the lower left corner).

On the positive side, one thing I really like is how the charms provide a universal search capability across all apps -- it's just nice when everything works the same. It's particularly fun with the music app.
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post #408 of 841
I'm pretty impressed with Windows 8 so far, I got my key via Dreamspark, and I don't think I'll be going back to my copy of Windows 7 Home Edition anytime soon.

Say whatever you want about Metro UI, but once you get the hang of it, it's just as easy to use, if not easier, as the old UI.

It looks some much cleaner, and the performance is unreal, everything is smooth as silk.

And the most important thing, BF3 runs like a complete dream, Min FPS went up, loading times went down (I really have no idea why, I used to keep my old Windows 7 install in tip top shape, so it wasn't due to the clean install).

People should really try the evaluation copy before voicing a pre constructed notion that Metro sucks, blah, blah...
post #409 of 841
I've been running Windows 8 for the last few days on my Zenbook Prime and I have to say I actually prefer it over Windows 7. It's faster and smoother, battery life is just as good and it works very well with the touchpad. I wanted to move to Linux but, due to software which I am required to use, it wasn't feasible, but I find Windows 8 is just as smooth as openSUSE which I had running before. It's certainly not the failure I thought it would be. Should be better once it's released to the public and Metro apps become more available.
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post #410 of 841
On my MacBook on W8 right now, out and about, showing an estimated battery life of about 6 hours thumb.gif
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